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05-26-2023, 07:27 PM
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Just another Facist
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Supremes ruling is justice-again
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05-27-2023, 01:43 PM
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Small win for the citizens! The Supreme Court also had a another good ruling in the EPA case about regulating wetlands. I have read many cases where the EPA has stopped people from doing things on their own property because some water collected after a rain or a creek ran through their property when there are heavy rains. On the water issue we need to put the EPA back in its proper box of regulating navigable waterways that cross state boundaries. Not each and every pond or rut inside a state. There should be no EPA rules applied for waters that don't leave the state.
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05-27-2023, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
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Anyone could have bought that Tax Lien and did the same. "Equity Theft" Pay your fucking taxes...
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05-27-2023, 04:15 PM
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This sounds like an eminently reasonable decision. While people should certainly pay their taxes, the penalty for not doing so should be reasonable. And it should be clearly stated. When a $500 tax delinquency procures $5,000 in fines, penalties and fees, something is wrong.
How about this? If a person falls behind in their tax payments, the government is required to inform them of that fact. A payment schedule is set up that works for the property owner. As long as those payments are met there are no interest, penalties or fines.
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05-27-2023, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RayT
Anyone could have bought that Tax Lien and did the same. "Equity Theft" Pay your fucking taxes...
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I would say that’s true for income taxes or sales taxes. Income taxes are paid on money you receive. It should not be that difficult to plan for. Sales taxes are paid on money you spend. If you can’t afford the tax, don’t spend the money. Property taxes are on something you get no immediate financial benefit from. They come do regardless of illness, financial hardship, or natural disaster.
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05-27-2023, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
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I love it! Roberts actually quoted scripture in writing his decision. Render unto Caesar what is his...and not a dime more!
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05-27-2023, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
I love it! Roberts actually quoted scripture in writing his decision. Render unto Caesar what is his...and not a dime more!
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Whats next TAX Forgiveness? This is a LIBERAL/SOCIALIST ruling and you cheer it.
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05-27-2023, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by RayT
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Not according to the U.S. Constitution. And not according to all the justices on the court! The state was due only what this woman owed in back taxes and not a nickle more!
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05-27-2023, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mostpost
I would say that’s true for income taxes or sales taxes. Income taxes are paid on money you receive. It should not be that difficult to plan for. Sales taxes are paid on money you spend. If you can’t afford the tax, don’t spend the money. Property taxes are on something you get no immediate financial benefit from. They come do regardless of illness, financial hardship, or natural disaster.
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What do you think property taxes are used for?
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05-27-2023, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyC
What do you think property taxes are used for?
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renters never see the breakdown of all the groups getting money from the property taxes paid
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05-27-2023, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by davew
renters never see the breakdown of all the groups getting money from the property taxes paid
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The information is readily available.
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05-28-2023, 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Not according to the U.S. Constitution. And not according to all the justices on the court! The state was due only what this woman owed in back taxes and not a nickle more!
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How about all the work and costs associated with the town foreclosing on the property and costs involved in the sale? Should WE taxpayers foot that bill too?
IMO you are taking away the incentive of anyone to pay their taxes once they own property free and clear. Again I think this is a LIBERAL Nanny State ruling. Actions have no consequences
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05-28-2023, 06:41 AM
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Interesting story.
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05-28-2023, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by RayT
How about all the work and costs associated with the town foreclosing on the property and costs involved in the sale? Should WE taxpayers foot that bill too?
IMO you are taking away the incentive of anyone to pay their taxes once they own property free and clear. Again I think this is a LIBERAL Nanny State ruling. Actions have no consequences
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Those are the costs of doing business. You mean to say those costs are not built into the taxes up front?
And, no, no incentive is being taken away. People who don't pay their taxes still lose their home -- no small inconvenience.
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05-28-2023, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Those are the costs of doing business. You mean to say those costs are not built into the taxes up front?
And, no, no incentive is being taken away. People who don't pay their taxes still lose their home -- no small inconvenience.
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"Built into the cost"
Nice way of saying taxpayers are footing the bill. Question do you own or rent?
I'm fine and respect you taking a liberal stance on this issue. Just be consistent and allow other conservatives to take a liberal stance on Social issues or detesting the whole MAGA movement without labeling them LIBTARDS.
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