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10-24-2016, 07:12 PM
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Frank George book
Does anyone have a little book on handicapping by the Frank George? He was a cybernetics professor and psychologist from the UK. I used to have his book but lost it over the years. I think the title was Betting Thoroughbreds or Betting to Win or something like that. He did a lot of statistical analysis in it. It had some unique numerical methods to assign values for form, speed, class, and consistency. Also some pace stuff to narrow down the contenders. I hated losing that book and googling it has not turned it up for me. Thanks.
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10-24-2016, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Whosonfirst
Does anyone have a little book on handicapping by the Frank George? He was a cybernetics professor and psychologist from the UK. I used to have his book but lost it over the years. I think the title was Betting Thoroughbreds or Betting to Win or something like that. He did a lot of statistical analysis in it. It had some unique numerical methods to assign values for form, speed, class, and consistency. Also some pace stuff to narrow down the contenders. I hated losing that book and googling it has not turned it up for me. Thanks.
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I believe I found two bits of info that might lead you down the right path:
LINK1 LINK2
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10-24-2016, 11:03 PM
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Wow, I don't remember the last time I saw you post here. Welcome back! 
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10-25-2016, 05:57 AM
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10-25-2016, 06:49 AM
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Thanks for everyone's help. Book is ordered.
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10-25-2016, 08:21 AM
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Last edited by jk3521; 10-25-2016 at 08:23 AM.
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10-25-2016, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by jk3521
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Completely antiquated and useless approach which has absolutely no chance in today's game. Other than historical reasons, do not bother with this.
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10-25-2016, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by DeltaLover
Completely antiquated and useless approach which has absolutely no chance in today's game. Other than historical reasons, do not bother with this.
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I agree. A simpleton's way of handicapping if that's all there is to it.
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10-25-2016, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Jay Trotter
I believe I found two bits of info that might lead you down the right path:
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just happen to have seen Gerry Cheevers a few days ago. his wife is in a fight with pancreatic cancer.
nice to see you here
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10-25-2016, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by lamboguy
just happen to have seen Gerry Cheevers a few days ago. his wife is in a fight with pancreatic cancer.
nice to see you here
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Ahh sorry to hear this. I met him a few times in the late 70s early-mid 80s. Two people I knew fairly well trained some horses for him in New York.
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10-25-2016, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jk3521
I agree. A simpleton's way of handicapping if that's all there is to it.
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Deltalover and jk3521, I owned the book and want it in my library for sentimental reasons. I don't want it for the basic programming that I might have had in soph year of college. I liked his concepts and remember most of what he did, which is not like much of anything around today. Maybe I am a simple guy and somewhat antiquated. However I do like to win, see link for how my methods did yesterday at Parx. Those were pre-race picks posted here. I could only stay for the first four. Have a good one.
http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...d.php?t=134179
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10-26-2016, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Whosonfirst
Deltalover and jk3521, I owned the book and want it in my library for sentimental reasons. I don't want it for the basic programming that I might have had in soph year of college. I liked his concepts and remember most of what he did, which is not like much of anything around today. Maybe I am a simple guy and somewhat antiquated. However I do like to win, see link for how my methods did yesterday at Parx. Those were pre-race picks posted here. I could only stay for the first four. Have a good one.
http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...d.php?t=134179 |
Sorry. I was just going by the excerpts that were on Google . I'm sure there must be much more to his system than was in those excerpts.
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10-31-2016, 09:14 PM
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The Best Bet
I received this book today by Frank George, and it does not disappoint. A great section on using all factors to handicap including pace. It also has a ton of info on probability as it relates to betting races. Will have to read those parts several times to relearn what I've probably forgot or didn't know.
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11-02-2016, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by lamboguy
just happen to have seen Gerry Cheevers a few days ago. his wife is in a fight with pancreatic cancer.
nice to see you here
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thanks for that info....he usually plays the horses with us all summer and he wasnt here this year.
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