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Old 01-18-2017, 01:09 PM   #1
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Unhappy Length of Stretch

Does anyone know where to find the Length of Stretch for each Harness Track.
USTA does not have them. I called.

This knowledge is crucial for handicapping races and should be readily available but I can't find it. Also, I emailed various tracks and no one responds.
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Old 01-18-2017, 01:11 PM   #2
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Does anyone know where to find the Length of Stretch for each Harness Track.
USTA does not have them. I called.

This knowledge is crucial for handicapping races and should be readily available but I can't find it. Also, I emailed various tracks and no one responds.
Ask PA member Pandy, he may be able to help
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Old 01-18-2017, 01:26 PM   #3
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You might have to call each individual track.

http://www.trackinfo.com/tracks-bree...es.jsp?breed=h
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Old 01-18-2017, 01:37 PM   #4
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Here's a PDF link with what you're looking for.

http://respecki.typepad.com/files/al-17.pdf
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Old 01-18-2017, 03:37 PM   #5
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Here's a PDF link with what you're looking for.

http://respecki.typepad.com/files/al-17.pdf
Yikes Money !...I haven't seen that Al Stanley Newsletter for a very long time... That was a very long time ago, haha...

Many of those tracks are long gone....

And, many of those listed tracks have changed the stretch length and/or configurations since then as well...

If you are an ExpressBet player, you can easily find the lengths of the stretches for any given track, at the bottom of the main betting sheet...
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Old 01-18-2017, 04:45 PM   #6
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This is what I'm using, but it needs updating.

Not sure of BigM stretch direction, they changed a while back.

Code:
Track	Trailer	Oval	Speed Length	 Stretch Dir
ACES	10	5/8	1:57.5	650	Southwest
AD	11	1	1:56.4	1320	
BANG	9	1/2	1:59.7	520	Southeast
BMLP	11	1	1:55.1	1360	South
BR	9	1/2	1:59.5	640	Northwest
BTVA	9	1/2	1:59.1	500	Southewest
CALX	10	1	1:57.0	990	South
CHST	9	5/8	1:55.8	434	Southwest
CNL	11	1 1/4	1:56.1	1300	Southwest
DD	9	5/8	1:55.8	500	South
DTN	9	5/8	2:00.1	700	South
FHLD	9	1/2	1:58.2	480	Northwest
FLMD	9	1/2	1:58.9	600	South
FRD	9	5/8	1:57.6	650 ?	East
GEOD	10	5/8	1:58.3	650 ?	South
GRVR	9	1/2	1:59.7	350	Southwest
HAR	9	1/2	1:57.2	440	East
HAW	10	1	1:55.8	1320	West
HAY	9	1/2	1:59.2	400 ?	Southwest
HM	10	7/8	1:58.5	900 ?	Southwest
HOP	10	7/8	1:56.9	1255	South
HP	10	5/8	1:59.5	615	South
INDY	10	1	1:56.3	1000	South
KD	9	5/8	1:58.7	660	South
LEB	9	1/2	2:01.2	461	West
LEX	11	1	1:57.0	850	Southeast
LON	8	1/2	2:00.0	600	Southeast
M	11	1	1:54.9	990	Southeast
MAY	9	1/2	1:56.5	594	West
MEA	10	5/8	1:57.4	566	Southeast
MOH	11	7/8	1:55.6	1095	West
MR	9	1/2	1:59.8	500	Southwest
MVR	10	5/8	1:59.8	?	
NFLD	9	1/2	1:58.2	440	South
NOR	9	1/2	2:00.7	440	Southwest
NP	9	5/8	1:58.1	567	East
OD	9	1/2	1:59.5	440	South
PCD	10	5/8	1:56.7	490	South
PHL	9	5/8	1:55.8	434	Southwest
PPK	10	5/8	1:57.0	608	Southwest
PRC	10	5/8	1:58.1	600	Southeast
PRM	11	1	1:56.4	1033	
QUE	9	1/2	1:59.2	480 ?	Notheast
RCR	9	5/8	1:57.5	402	West
RIDC	9	5/8	1:59.1	585	Southeast
ROCK	10	1	1:57.3	935	South
SCAR	9	1/2	2:01.3	440	South
SCD	10	5/8	1:57.4	538	South
SPCK	10	5/8	2:02.6	550	East
STGA	9	1/2	1:58.8	550	South
TGDN	10	5/8	1:57.8	600	East
VD	10	7/8	1:57.2	900	Northwest
WDB	11	7/8	1:55.4	976	East
WR	10	5/8	1:58.0	520	South
YR	9	1/2	1:59.0	660	NorthWest
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Old 01-18-2017, 07:08 PM   #7
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This is what I'm using, but it needs updating.

Not sure of BigM stretch direction, they changed a while back.

Code:
Track	Trailer	Oval	Speed Length	 Stretch Dir
ACES	10	5/8	1:57.5	650	Southwest
AD	11	1	1:56.4	1320	
BANG	9	1/2	1:59.7	520	Southeast
BMLP	11	1	1:55.1	1360	South
BR	9	1/2	1:59.5	640	Northwest
BTVA	9	1/2	1:59.1	500	Southewest
CALX	10	1	1:57.0	990	South
CHST	9	5/8	1:55.8	434	Southwest
CNL	11	1 1/4	1:56.1	1300	Southwest
DD	9	5/8	1:55.8	500	South
DTN	9	5/8	2:00.1	700	South
FHLD	9	1/2	1:58.2	480	Northwest
FLMD	9	1/2	1:58.9	600	South
FRD	9	5/8	1:57.6	650 ?	East
GEOD	10	5/8	1:58.3	650 ?	South
GRVR	9	1/2	1:59.7	350	Southwest
HAR	9	1/2	1:57.2	440	East
HAW	10	1	1:55.8	1320	West
HAY	9	1/2	1:59.2	400 ?	Southwest
HM	10	7/8	1:58.5	900 ?	Southwest
HOP	10	7/8	1:56.9	1255	South
HP	10	5/8	1:59.5	615	South
INDY	10	1	1:56.3	1000	South
KD	9	5/8	1:58.7	660	South
LEB	9	1/2	2:01.2	461	West
LEX	11	1	1:57.0	850	Southeast
LON	8	1/2	2:00.0	600	Southeast
M	11	1	1:54.9	990	Southeast
MAY	9	1/2	1:56.5	594	West
MEA	10	5/8	1:57.4	566	Southeast
MOH	11	7/8	1:55.6	1095	West
MR	9	1/2	1:59.8	500	Southwest
MVR	10	5/8	1:59.8	?	
NFLD	9	1/2	1:58.2	440	South
NOR	9	1/2	2:00.7	440	Southwest
NP	9	5/8	1:58.1	567	East
OD	9	1/2	1:59.5	440	South
PCD	10	5/8	1:56.7	490	South
PHL	9	5/8	1:55.8	434	Southwest
PPK	10	5/8	1:57.0	608	Southwest
PRC	10	5/8	1:58.1	600	Southeast
PRM	11	1	1:56.4	1033	
QUE	9	1/2	1:59.2	480 ?	Notheast
RCR	9	5/8	1:57.5	402	West
RIDC	9	5/8	1:59.1	585	Southeast
ROCK	10	1	1:57.3	935	South
SCAR	9	1/2	2:01.3	440	South
SCD	10	5/8	1:57.4	538	South
SPCK	10	5/8	2:02.6	550	East
STGA	9	1/2	1:58.8	550	South
TGDN	10	5/8	1:57.8	600	East
VD	10	7/8	1:57.2	900	Northwest
WDB	11	7/8	1:55.4	976	East
WR	10	5/8	1:58.0	520	South
YR	9	1/2	1:59.0	660	NorthWest

This is probably as good as we can get right now. The USTA used to have the length of the stretch listed for each track on their website, but they've changed the format and it only lists the length or some tracks.

Note: Next month Yonkers will be going back to the shorter stretch. It used to be 440 feet and I believe it will be that again. Right now it's 660 feet, the longest for any half mile track.
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Old 01-18-2017, 07:27 PM   #8
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Theese and more individual track data were published in the annual-no-longer-published USTA's Trotting and Pacing Guides.
The USTA offers a free download of the T&P for the current year 'some where' on their website. Whether the individual tracks data are included in the online version is unknown to me.

I downloaded a couple early on, and the table data didn't align properly in the conversion to PDF, thus I 76'd 'em.
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Old 01-18-2017, 07:45 PM   #9
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Thanks

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Old 01-18-2017, 09:06 PM   #10
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USTA used to publish a yearly book called the Trotting and Pacing guide. It had length of stretch at all tracks. Track records at major tracks and fairs. Listed former winners of all big races. I stopped buying it years ago but always found it quite valuable. Oops just read Wilderness answer. Sorry.lol. What he said......
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Old 01-18-2017, 09:30 PM   #11
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They stopped publishing it. Thanks for the help
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They stopped publishing it. Thanks for the help
They stopped publishing the hard-copy.
Told you it was on their website some where

Here's the active (2015) version

http://www.ustrotting.com/trackside/tpg/tpg.cfm
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