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Old 07-31-2014, 12:57 PM   #31
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And tucker, Obama was an associate and partner in a law firm for more than a decade, not to mention his teaching at Univ of Chicago.
He didn't learn much, did he?

Danny, your racist BS is insulting and as usual, totally off base.
Street Hoods - you are aware FONZIE was a street hood?
A hoodlum, a "hood."

You're playing the race cards just exposed your lack of ability to counter the arguments being made. We, on the left, find that very about you.
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Old 07-31-2014, 12:59 PM   #32
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I also thought thugs were union boys, hoods were street tough guys, and the mafia was mobsters or goons.
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Old 07-31-2014, 12:59 PM   #33
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And tucker, Obama was an associate and partner in a law firm for more than a decade, not to mention his teaching at Univ of Chicago.
Yes and no Dan.


Los Angeles Times Tuesday, April 08, 2008

Senior attorneys at the small firm where he worked say he was a strong writer and researcher, but was involved in relatively few cases -- about 30 -- and spent only four years as a full-time lawyer before entering politics.

Obama arrived in Chicago in 1993 with a degree from Harvard Law School and was hired as a junior lawyer at the firm then known as Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Gallard. He helped represent clients in civil and voting rights matters and wrongful firings, argued a case before a federal appellate court, and took the lead in writing a suit to expand voter registration.

But the firm also handled routine legal matters and real estate. Obama spent about 70% of his time on voting rights, civil rights and employment, generally as a junior associate. The rest of his time was spent on matters related to real estate transactions, filing incorporation papers and defending clients against minor lawsuits.

In one instance, Obama defended a nonprofit corporation that owns low-income housing projects against a lawsuit in which a man alleged that he slipped and fell because of poor maintenance. Obama got the suit dismissed.

In another case, Obama appeared on behalf of a nonprofit corporation that provided healthcare for poor people. A woman who claimed income of less than $8,000 a year had sued Obama's client to obtain a $336 payment for baby-sitting services; Obama's client paid up, and the case was settled.

In 1994, Obama appeared in Cook County court on behalf of Woodlawn Preservation & Investment Corp., defending it against a suit by the city, which alleged that the company failed to provide heat for low-income tenants on the South Side during the winter.

Those were not the cases Obama highlighted in the self-portrait drawn in his first memoir, "Dreams From My Father."

"In my legal practice," he wrote, "I work mostly with churches and community groups, men and women who quietly build grocery stores and health clinics in the inner city, and housing for the poor."

Obama had made a name for himself at Harvard, where he was the first African American president of the law review. That accomplishment generated press accounts and prompted Judson Miner, head of the firm that bears his name, to recruit Obama. Obama took time to complete "Dreams From My Father," then joined the 13-attorney firm.

"He was doing the work that any first-year or second-year associate would do," Miner said. "In litigation, he was doing basic research and writing memos. . . . In the first couple years he would play a very minor role. He wouldn't know [much], so he would take the lead from whoever was supervising his work."

He did have some noteworthy cases. Among them, Obama filed a major 1995 suit that successfully forced Illinois to enforce the 1993 federal Motor Voter law, which sought to make it easier for people to register to vote.



Obama took what Miner called the "laboring oar" on some cases. He took the lead arguing a 1994 case before the U.S. 7th Circuit Court of Appeals on behalf of a securities trader who had been improperly fired. The court ruled for his client.

"This is a central part of his life and story," said David Axelrod, Obama's chief campaign strategist. "He could have written his ticket at any law firm in the country. . . . He decided instead that he wanted to be a civil rights attorney, and he signed up with a small firm that had a reputation for doing this kind of work."

People who knew Obama in the early 1990s said he made it clear that he aspired to run for public office. For that, the firm, now called Miner, Barnhill & Gallard, was a good place to start.

The firm has been a force in Chicago politics. Carol Moseley Braun, one of Obama's predecessors in the U.S. Senate from Illinois, briefly worked there.

Miner was counsel to the late Chicago Mayor Harold Washington. Allison Davis, a co-founder of the firm who since has left, is a major Chicago developer.

Miner, Davis and other partners and clients have been a regular source of campaign money for Obama, giving him $100,000 over the years. Miner said he organized fundraisers for Obama's first state Senate run, his 2000 congressional campaign and his 2004 U.S. Senate race.

Davis, who could not be reached for comment, has been a partner with other Chicago developers who also are clients of the firm and are Obama backers. One Davis partner was Antoin "Tony" Rezko, a major Obama patron who is now on trial in a federal public corruption case.

The law firm says Obama logged 3,723 billable hours during his tenure from 1993 to 2004, most of it during the first four years.

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So in other words, Obama didn't do much as a lawyer, so my prior comments still stand. The average lawyer has 1,800 billable hours per year according to to NALP. So Obama essentially worked two full years as a lawyer. He embellished his law career just like he embellishes everything else. In handling only 30 cases, he hardly "worked mostly with churches and community groups, men and women who quietly build grocery stores and health clinics in the inner city, and housing for the poor." He was certainly not a partner as you suggest either.

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Old 07-31-2014, 01:02 PM   #34
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"He was doing the work that any first-year or second-year associate would do," Miner said. "In litigation, he was doing basic research and writing memos. . . . In the first couple years he would play a very minor role. He wouldn't know [much], so he would take the lead from whoever was supervising his work."
So he did a lot more then than he does now.
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So he did a lot more then than he does now.
He was being supervised then as he is now too. Dan says he was a partner, and at least an associate. The law firm says he was a junior associate. I wonder if he delivered the interoffice mail and cleaned the bathrooms too.
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Old 07-31-2014, 01:14 PM   #36
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Danny, your racist BS is insulting and as usual, totally off base.
Street Hoods - you are aware FONZIE was a street hood?
A hoodlum, a "hood."
You cross the line when you bring Fonzie into this

Just think about it.. what other president would be referred to as a street hood? Clinton? Bush? Carter? Nixon? Anyone?

Of course not, the term would never even come to mind. To deny the obvious racial implications is truly hilarious.
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But Nixon was a "crook." And Reagan was a B-movie actor. Nothing racist is either of those, but certainly disparaging characterizations.

Why would anyone associate those Prez's with the street?
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Why would anyone associate those Prez's with the street?
Exactly. Why would anyone associate Obama with the street?
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Exactly. Why would anyone associate Obama with the street?
I don't know. Maybe when he writes about "scoring some blow" do I need to go on? I did that from memory.....but I'm sure it's close.

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Just think about it.. what other president would be referred to as a street hood? Clinton? Bush? Carter? Nixon? Anyone?
Nixon was the first name that came to mind, but I rejected him as a street hood. Nixon would be higher up the food chain. He had better strategic and leadership abilities than Obama. Nixon was also smarter and sneakier than Obama. I'd call him a boss, if not a don.
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Looks like Dan has decided to skip over the "Obama was an associate and partner in a law firm for more than a decade" beatdown.
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Exactly. Why would anyone associate Obama with the street?
How about this?

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He told his followers to bring a gun to a knife fight

He told his followers to "get in their faces"

He told Latino voters to "punish" Republicans
Among many other examples.
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Can I ask a simple question? If you were to poll Americans, 90+% would say they hate stupid shit like this, and they're sick and tired of it, and want Congress to stop it and start doing their jobs.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...-so-unpopular/

So why doesn't it ever stop?

Were you aware that the House has passed over 300 bills, on everything from the economy, to health care, to the V.A., and they are all sitting on Harry Reid's desk. Of course you weren't. You only know what the Mother Ship wants you to know. If Harry brought them to a vote, pass or fail makes no difference, he could no longer label the Congress as a DO NOTHING Congress. That's why people like you keep repeating the bullshit.
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