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Old 07-28-2014, 09:48 PM   #1
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Obama should be impeached for this

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/...-in-tennessee/

Sneaking illegals in should be the last straw
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Old 07-28-2014, 09:51 PM   #2
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Sneaking illegals in should be the last straw
You have to sneak them in. Illegals have a constitutional right to privacy.
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Old 07-28-2014, 10:07 PM   #3
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Just another of the historic firsts for this administration. First president to orchestrate an invasion of the country.
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Old 07-28-2014, 10:08 PM   #4
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This has been going on at least since June, if not earlier.

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Elected officials in two states far from the U.S.-Mexico border have claimed that the Obama administration has resettled hundreds of unaccompanied illegal immigrant children without adequate notice and has refused to detail the exact locations where the children are being kept.

Fox News has learned that 748 unaccompanied minors have been transferred from areas near the border to the Chicago area. Of the original group of 748 kids, 319 have been placed with family members or sponsors while they await an immigration hearing. The other 429 have been placed in facilities run by the Heartland Alliance, a nonprofit organization that receives grants from the Department of Health and Human Services.

Sen. Mark Kirk, R-Ill., told Fox News Friday that he did not know the exact locations of the facilities where the children were being kept, and stated his belief that the White House did not want the children's living conditions to be made public.


Nebraska Gov. Dave Heineman told the Wall Street Journal Saturday that 200 children were sent to his state without warning, and added that federal officials had refused to give him their names and locations.

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Old 07-28-2014, 10:38 PM   #5
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Sneaking illegals in should be the last straw
So, what, in your opinion, is the impeachable offense?
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Old 07-28-2014, 10:44 PM   #6
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They dropped 760 off here in TN., and didn't bother to let the Governor know. Needless to say, he is pissed.

“It is unacceptable that we became aware via a posting on the HHS website that 760 unaccompanied children have been released by the Office of Refugee Resettlement to sponsors in Tennessee without my administration’s knowledge,” the governor wrote in a strongly-worded letter to President Obama.

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Old 07-28-2014, 10:50 PM   #7
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This is not an impeachment case.
It is treason.
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Old 07-28-2014, 10:57 PM   #8
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An influence of unaccompanied immigrant children to the state, with little information being made available to the public or to state leaders, creates confusion and could be very problematic,” the governor wrote.

Hey governor, you're using an obsolete word. The correct word is influx. And since they have sponsors, they are not unaccompanied.
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Old 07-28-2014, 10:59 PM   #9
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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/...-in-tennessee/

Sneaking illegals in should be the last straw
And just what is the "High crimes or misdemeanors" which you will be basing this impeachment on?
ETA: I see TJ Dave has already asked the question. We await your answer.
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Hey governor, you're using an obsolete word. The correct word is influx. And since they have sponsors, they are not unaccompanied.
Tell us who are the "sponsors?"

Hint: Their Angel Sponsor's name starts with an O and ends in an A !
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Tell us who are the "sponsors?"

Hint: Their Angel Sponsor's name starts with an O and ends in an A !
The Office of Refugee Resettlement says sponsors are typically a parent or relative who can care for the illegal immigrant child while their immigration case is processed. All sponsors are required to undergo background checks.
You really need to read the stories your hero links to.
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The Office of Refugee Resettlement says sponsors are typically a parent or relative who can care for the illegal immigrant child while their immigration case is processed. All sponsors are required to undergo background checks.
You really need to read the stories your hero links to.
Or a non-profit organization that gave donations to political people. And even though a 'non-profit', some of the people are making a very good income from HHS and people of country....
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All sponsors are required to undergo background checks.
Oh?

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The Department of Health and Human Services’s policy for unaccompanied illegal-immigrant children does not require the department to verify whether the sponsors with whom they stay before their immigration hearing are legal residents themselves, according to a department official. As noted by Senate Homeland Security ranking member Tom Coburn (R., Okla.), not doing so “markedly diminishes” the likelihood that the children return for an immigration hearing.

During a committee hearing on Wednesday, HHS official Mark Greenberg admitted that the department prioritizes finding the “least restrictive setting in the child’s best interest” when placing the child with a sponsor, including considerations for their safety, and does not take legal status into account. Greenberg said the department makes sure the sponsors understand that they are tasked with making the child available for any proceedings and hearings.
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Arizona Governor Jan Brewer said federal officials confirmed during a Tuesday conference call that illegal immigrant children are being released to adults or "sponsors" whose identities the federal government often cannot verify.

The Republican governor said she "was confirmed what I have long suspected" during the call – "the Obama administration has specifically chosen to avoid its due diligence and is releasing Unaccompanied Alien Children into the care and custody of so-called ‘sponsors’ -- individuals about whom the administration does not check immigration or deportation status."

According to a leaked Department of Homeland Security report that Breitbart Texas obtained, "fewer than 50% of the unaccompanied children have been discharged to a mother or father." The report found that "adult siblings," "aunts," "uncles," "grandparents," or "more distant relatives, family, or associates" make up the majority of adults who are picking up the "unaccompanied" children. And many adults have showed up repeatedly to claim various children.
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And just what is the "High crimes or misdemeanors" which you will be basing this impeachment on?
The phrase "high crimes or misdemeanors" is a legal term of art going back hundreds of years in British common law. It means that certain high officials must be held to higher legal standards than ordinary citizens.

Among other problems, the federal government releasing illegal aliens into states without their knowledge potentially subjects those states to excessive financial burdens, to introduction into the community and into the schools unknown communicable diseases, and to potential violence from Mexican gang members, if not terrorists.

The president is also violating, or at best misapplying, several federal laws. Obama's justification for not immediately deporting these illegals is a 2008 law involving potential victims of sexual trafficking. There is zero indication that sexual trafficking is occurring, and that standard has been used in the past to immediately return illegals to their homelands.
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All sponsors are required to undergo background checks.


Oh?

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The Department of Health and Human Services’s policy for unaccompanied illegal-immigrant children does not require the department to verify whether the sponsors with whom they stay before their immigration hearing are legal residents themselves, according to a department official. As noted by Senate Homeland Security ranking member Tom Coburn (R., Okla.), not doing so “markedly diminishes” the likelihood that the children return for an immigration hearing.

During a committee hearing on Wednesday, HHS official Mark Greenberg admitted that the department prioritizes finding the “least restrictive setting in the child’s best interest” when placing the child with a sponsor, including considerations for their safety, and does not take legal status into account. Greenberg said the department makes sure the sponsors understand that they are tasked with making the child available for any proceedings and hearings.



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Arizona Governor Jan Brewer said federal officials confirmed during a Tuesday conference call that illegal immigrant children are being released to adults or "sponsors" whose identities the federal government often cannot verify.

The Republican governor said she "was confirmed what I have long suspected" during the call – "the Obama administration has specifically chosen to avoid its due diligence and is releasing Unaccompanied Alien Children into the care and custody of so-called ‘sponsors’ -- individuals about whom the administration does not check immigration or deportation status."

According to a leaked Department of Homeland Security report that Breitbart Texas obtained, "fewer than 50% of the unaccompanied children have been discharged to a mother or father." The report found that "adult siblings," "aunts," "uncles," "grandparents," or "more distant relatives, family, or associates" make up the majority of adults who are picking up the "unaccompanied" children. And many adults have showed up repeatedly to claim various children.
I really don't care that they are not checking for immigration status. The only concern should be the safety of the children. Is the potential sponsor not a pedophile or drug dealer? Do they have sufficient income to care for the child?
Things like that are important. Not immigration status.

This is good: "fewer than 50% of the unaccompanied children have been discharged to a mother or father." Well duh! The reason they are unaccompanied is that the mother or father is back in Guatamala or Honduras or ?????

Finally Jan Brewer is not smart enough to understand anything anyone tells her and Sen Coburn has no basis for his theory that the sponsors will fail to produce their wards for any hearings.
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