Gatewood (Mtn, Race 5, July 8) by about 100 lengths.

[mountainman]

Originally Posted by Peter Berry

In this rare instance, the boundaries of time and pace and class were meaningless.

There can be no response to a statement like this. Nor further debate from my end.

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by mountainman

There can be no response to a statement like this. Nor further debate from my end.

This horse was streaking around the track, running like a demon, he was opening up at will and would have kept pouring it on if the jock kept shoving, he wasn't slowing down at all, if this jocks's life depended on him winning by 40, it would have been awful close.

[mountainman]

Originally Posted by Stillriledup

This horse was streaking around the track, running like a demon, he was opening up at will and would have kept pouring it on if the jock kept shoving, he wasn't slowing down at all, if this jocks's life depended on him winning by 40, it would have been awful close.

So now we've invoked demons, possession, and potential loss of life, redefined t-bred performance, and pretty much suspended the laws of time and space. Do you guys really want your names on this stuff?

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by mountainman

So now we've invoked demons, possession, and potential loss of life, redefined t-bred performance, and pretty much suspended the laws of time and space. Do you guys really want your names on this insanity?

The horse just freaked plain and simple. This guy was running like the devil was chasing him, he would have just kept widening if the jock didnt ease him up, who knows what would have happened had he kept rolling.

[Peter Berry]

Originally Posted by mountainman

So now we've invoked demons, possession, and potential loss of life, redefined t-bred performance, and pretty much suspended the laws of time and space. Do you guys really want your names on this stuff?

This was akin to a UFO sighting: Some people will believe what they saw, others won't. And the sceptics will be out in force.

Not everything fits neatly into a box. Life would be awfully dull if it did.

If Gatewood had run a second faster to the turn his overmatched rivals would have been spent earlier. His final time might have been slower but his margin of victory greater.

I know what I saw. I saw a UFO.

[mountainman]

Originally Posted by Peter Berry

This was akin to a UFO sighting: Some people will believe what they saw, others won't. And the sceptics will be out in force.

Not everything fits neatly into a box. Life would be awfully dull if it did.

If Gatewood had run a second faster to the turn his overmatched rivals would have been spent earlier. His final time might have been slower but his margin of victory greater. I know what I saw.

And now ufo's and the nature of life? What's next, the holy spirit? This has nothing to do with belief or skepticism. You talk like you witnessed a miracle (but DENY it was a mercurial performance??). This is between those who understand pace, time, running style, and the nature of wide-margin wins, and those who do not.

And now that any notion of Gatewood running 4 seconds faster has been logically refuted, the new theory is that his rivals would have run 20 lengths slower????? Do you know how far 20 lengths is? How astoundingly significant that spacing is in a t-bred race??? Let's call it the difference between Game on Dude and 10k claimers.

In fact, you stated that this 21- length winner could have scored by FIFTY. For the record, that's the same as attributing almost 60 additional beyer points to whatever number the horse is assigned. And sixty beyer points is an entire (rather snappy) horserace in itself at the level Gatewood scored at.

Again, you're standing by these assertions????? With your real name next to them??? Right here on the record. And that's after demons, possession, and ufo's have been invoked on your side of the argument.

[Peter Berry]

Yes.

[mountainman]

Originally Posted by Peter Berry

Yes.

Get some sleep, dude. I'm about to drift off. We'll discontinue this tomorrow.

[thaskalos]

I have great respect and admiration for both of you gentlemen...so I'll be diplomatic.

If roused...Gatewood could have won by 35.5 lengths.

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by mountainman

And now ufo's and the nature of life? What's next, the holy spirit? This has nothing to do with belief or skepticism. You talk like you witnessed a miracle (but DENY it was a mercurial performance??). This is between those who understand pace, time, running style, and the nature of wide-margin wins, and those who do not.

And now that any notion of Gatewood running 4 seconds faster has been logically refuted, the new theory is that his rivals would have run 20 lengths slower????? Do you know how far 20 lengths is? How astoundingly significant that spacing is in a t-bred race??? Let's call it the difference between Game on Dude and 10k claimers.

In fact, you stated that this 21- length winner could have scored by FIFTY. For the record, that's the same as attributing almost 60 additional beyer points to whatever number the horse is assigned. And sixty beyer points is an entire (rather snappy) horserace in itself at the level Gatewood scored at.

Again, you're standing by these assertions????? With your real name next to them??? Right here on the record. And that's after demons, possession, and ufo's have been invoked on your side of the argument.

This is why this is the greatest game on earth. Two people can watch the same thing and come up with completely different opinions.

[Stillriledup]

Gatewood Beyer: 80

[appistappis]

come on boys, its the mountain. He will probably have $39,000 to show on him in the next race and bobble and run 4th.

[ArlJim78]

I'm convinced this is the trial run of what could become a great comedy duo.

[cj]

Horse was assigned an 82 TimeformUS speed figure, only the third best of his career. The other horses didn't do much running, and he was the best horse coming in anyway.

[tanner12oz]

anyone have the video?