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08-13-2014, 05:16 PM
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Astounding DQ at DMR race 1 (Aug 13th)
Beyond words.
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08-13-2014, 05:21 PM
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Textbook DQ to me.
The had no one near him along the rail then goes out 3 lanes and just hammers the
was leading when the pounds him then goes on to lose by a nose.
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08-13-2014, 05:21 PM
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Not sure what they saw
Last edited by camourous; 08-13-2014 at 05:24 PM.
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08-13-2014, 05:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TucsonGreyhound
Textbook DQ to me.
The had no one near him along the rail then goes out 3 lanes and just hammers the
was leading when the pounds him then goes on to lose by a nose.
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So you didnt really watch it is what you're saying?
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08-13-2014, 05:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TucsonGreyhound
Textbook DQ to me.
The had no one near him along the rail then goes out 3 lanes and just hammers the
was leading when the pounds him then goes on to lose by a nose.
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I had the to win and luckily a cover on the / exacta. I figured the was going to come down. I saw the same thing as you.. came over several lanes and slammed into the causing a loss of momentum.
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08-13-2014, 05:31 PM
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When you get these 50/50 calls that the stews probably flipped a coin, I'd rather they make no change unless the foul is clearly(which should be more like 95/5) shown.
The inconsistent results do nobody a real favor.
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08-13-2014, 05:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DelMarJay
When you get these 50/50 calls that the stews probably flipped a coin, I'd rather they make no change unless the foul is clearly(which should be more like 95/5) shown.
The inconsistent results do nobody a real favor.
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Its not even a 50/50 call. When the 4 came out at the top of the lane, the 1 also came in, Than, the 1 lugged onto the winner the entire final 70 yards pushing him down on the fence. The bump didnt cost the 1 the race, he pushed the winner down at the wire and he still couldnt win, he had every chance while causing most of his own problems.
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08-13-2014, 06:05 PM
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Neutral onlooker here-no money riding.
The drifted in ever so slightly while at the same time the bore out hard. Then, kept drifting with the while bumping the 2 more times.
In deep stretch, they both drifted inward, but the again slammed into the hard near the finish.
Not easy, but still enough there to DQ. Sorry.
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08-13-2014, 06:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wisconsin
Neutral onlooker here-no money riding.
The drifted in ever so slightly while at the same time the bore out hard. Then, kept drifting with the while bumping the 2 more times.
In deep stretch, they both drifted inward, but the again slammed into the hard near the finish.
Not easy, but still enough there to DQ. Sorry.
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You watched a different race. The 1 pushed the 4 down onto the inside the final yards, there was no "slam" at all.
As far as the 1 drifting "ever so slightly" it doesn't matter, he drifted in, so he was part of his own problem.
None of any of this "contact sport" stuff cost the 1 the race. He was lame, he wasnt game and had every shot, the jock never stopped riding, he didnt "drop back" when he was bumped and he pushed the 4 down to the rail at the end. He wasnt 'cost the race' and that is the 'standard of proof' that So Cal uses.
Well, sometimes they use it.
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08-13-2014, 07:21 PM
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Vic Stauffer might be able to explain the DQ. I heard he is one of the 3 Stooges, errrr, I mean Stewards, at Del Mar this week.
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08-13-2014, 07:22 PM
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No problem at all with that DQ, thought it would be tough to keep the 4 up even from the pan shot. Once the head on was showed, no brainer in my opinion. Now if they left it, I could live with that because I always favor no DQ, but tough to argue against this one.
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08-13-2014, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Stillriledup
You watched a different race. The 1 pushed the 4 down onto the inside the final yards, there was no "slam" at all.
As far as the 1 drifting "ever so slightly" it doesn't matter, he drifted in, so he was part of his own problem.
None of any of this "contact sport" stuff cost the 1 the race. He was lame, he wasnt game and had every shot, the jock never stopped riding, he didnt "drop back" when he was bumped and he pushed the 4 down to the rail at the end. He wasnt 'cost the race' and that is the 'standard of proof' that So Cal uses.
Well, sometimes they use it.
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Yeah, he pushed the down inside. Oooooooooooooook. Watch it once more. They drifted in together and then the leaned out late. Sorry, we only see what we want to see. Do I like these arguable DQ's, no, but I do see why the horse came down.
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08-13-2014, 07:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stillriledup
Beyond words.
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can you please post a link to the video. dmtc.com requires this idiotic form to "register" for access to race replays....UGH!!!!!!
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08-13-2014, 07:46 PM
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I don't agree with it. The one didn't deserve to have the stewards hand him the win. He managed to take the lead even after the so-called foul and still couldn't hold on. When two horses stagger home, neither clearly superior to the other, I don't like to see the result manipulated.
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08-13-2014, 07:54 PM
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I think the winner should've stayed up. I've seen worse calls, I wouldn't call it a terrible decision but I don't agree with it.
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