Jogging while black

[delayjf]

I think that is blaming the victim

I'm not blaming him, just stating that he played a part in the altercation by attacking the armed son. Unless you can show they followed the runner with the intent to shoot him.

[Tom]

As I said earlier, we should calm down until we know ALL the details. I agree with Jeff, if he grabbed for the rifle, it can certainly be a mitigating factor - M1 is tough one to prove.
I know, I watch Law & Order.

M2 seems, at this time, with what we know for sure NOW, pretty much for sure.


over and over

[Saratoga_Mike]

If the perpetrators were black and the jogger was white, would people need to calm down?

[horses4courses]

Originally Posted by Saratoga_Mike

If the perpetrators were black and the jogger was white, would people need to calm down?

No.
The initial outrage would not have lasted long.

The shooter would have been detained immediately.
Assuming, of course, he was taken alive.

[Saratoga_Mike]

Originally Posted by horses4courses

No.
The initial outrage would not have lasted long.

The shooter would have been detained immediately.
Assuming, of course, he was taken alive.

I think anyone who is intellectually honest would agree with this statement.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Saratoga_Mike

If the perpetrators were black and the jogger was white, would people need to calm down?

Duh, yes.
Because the truth was not presented in the Times article.
You wait until you get facts.

[biggestal99]

Originally Posted by delayjf

I'm not blaming him, just stating that he played a part in the altercation by attacking the armed son. Unless you can show they followed the runner with the intent to shoot him.

Who was there why with a loaded shotgun? You don’t have a gun loaded unless you intend to use it if necessary.

The victim did absolutely nothing wrong and for his troubles got shot three times and died.

It’s the mcmichaels fault period.

Allan

[biggestal99]

Originally Posted by biggestal99

Who was there why with a loaded shotgun? You don’t have a gun loaded unless you intend to use it if necessary.

The victim did absolutely nothing wrong and for his troubles got shot three times and died.

It’s the mcmichaels fault period.

Allan

The pursuit itself was unlawful.

Allan

[clicknow]

Bottom line, once the GBI agents were brought in, they found enough to obtain warrants for felony murder.

" I think that speaks volumes for itself and that the probable cause was clear to our agents pretty quickly."

They apparently found something in the files that is pretty convincing. Felony murder, pretty serious stuff.

I think the only reason it took from end of Feb til now is cuz one of the accused men had worked in the local DAs office at some point. Interesting that as soon as the GBI was brought in, and took over from the local-yokels, they were able to get warrants for felony murder.

I personally think the agents are going to find more people involved in a cover up of sorts, too. Maybe more arrests, too, I bet??. Something here smells to high heaven if you ask me.

[TJDave]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/08/us/ah...dqMX3tOR4lGUV8

it's gettin wacky

Ruh Roh!

The Brunswick News has reported Arbery was indicted for allegedly bringing a gun to a 2013 high school basketball game when he was 19. Family attorney Lee Merritt has acknowledged Arbery's 2018 arrest on shoplifting charges. But any reference to "alleged conduct from high school or shoplifting is absurd and has nothing to do with his murder," Merritt said.

Right.

In a prospective jurors eyes Arbery just went from jogger to runner.

[davew]

Originally Posted by biggestal99

The pursuit itself was unlawful.

Allan

what I saw was a pickup stopped on the road, no one being chased

another video shows jogger entering construction site garage, could have been taking a piss or chasing the joint to see if any tools to return later.

[JerryBoyle]

Originally Posted by TJDave

Ruh Roh!

The Brunswick News has reported Arbery was indicted for allegedly bringing a gun to a 2013 high school basketball game when he was 19. Family attorney Lee Merritt has acknowledged Arbery's 2018 arrest on shoplifting charges. But any reference to "alleged conduct from high school or shoplifting is absurd and has nothing to do with his murder," Merritt said.

Right.

In a prospective jurors eyes Arbery just went from jogger to runner.

What does that have to do with a 2020 murder? Was he murdered for that? Courts took too long to act so the father/son decided they'd had enough?

I'm curious, for you and everyone else here who's putting the time in to attempting to find fault w/ the victim, have you put the same effort into searching through the history of the shooters? If not, start racking your brain for potential reasons why not...

[clicknow]

Originally Posted by JerryBoyle

have you put the same effort into searching through the history of the shooters? If not, start racking your brain for potential reasons why not...

I did that in my post. I think there is "relationships" here that we don't know about yet, esp. since the one of the perps was local investigator for DA and seems like local law enforcement dragged their feet on this for many months, I think further arrests are gonna be made! More to all this than meets the eye that has nothing to do with the video.

[chrisl]

Originally Posted by biggestal99

Who was there why with a loaded shotgun? You don’t have a gun loaded unless you intend to use it if necessary.

The victim did absolutely nothing wrong and for his troubles got shot three times and died.

It’s the mcmichaels fault period.

Allan

Who was there why with a loaded shotgun? You don’t have a gun loaded unless you intend to use it if necessary.

OMG what an intelligent statement. You get the Booger eater award of the year.

[biggestal99]

Originally Posted by TJDave

Ruh Roh!

The Brunswick News has reported Arbery was indicted for allegedly bringing a gun to a 2013 high school basketball game when he was 19. Family attorney Lee Merritt has acknowledged Arbery's 2018 arrest on shoplifting charges. But any reference to "alleged conduct from high school or shoplifting is absurd and has nothing to do with his murder," Merritt said.

Right.

In a prospective jurors eyes Arbery just went from jogger to runner.

And the lawyer is correct. If you think shoplifting gives anyone the right to chase down and kill an unarmed man because they “think” he is a criminal.

Think again.

Allan