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07-20-2016, 08:02 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 7,727
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Not sure anything written about horseracing was more enjoyable than reading Crist in DRF. Beyer graduated in the same class.
I wrote to Steve a number of times over the years through DRF and he always got back to me. Courteous and expansive, Steve chose not to belittle me when I wailed about DRF ignoring New Jersey's lack of OTB's and ADW's back around the turn of the century.
Can't see anyone replacing an icon like him.
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07-20-2016, 09:24 PM
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Just another Facist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Now in Houston
Posts: 52,796
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Does he become more vocal now!
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07-21-2016, 11:36 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Lehigh Valley, PA.
Posts: 7,464
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Steve made great contributions to the sport. I was also a big fan of his columns.
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07-21-2016, 11:44 AM
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Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 9,893
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Glad to hear it isn't his health - thank you TLG. Betting on Myself was a great book - highly recommend it. He's such a gifted writer.
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07-21-2016, 05:17 PM
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clean money
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Maryland
Posts: 23,559
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Steve is the man.
I've got one of his books on the nightstand.
Interacted once on social media, and he was down to earth and positive.
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07-21-2016, 07:39 PM
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self medicated
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: toga
Posts: 3,088
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PhantomOnTour
What i love most about Crist is that he's a tireless advocate for the horse player, the ones who fund the purses.
Still remember a line I read in one of his books as he addressed a horsemen's group:
"If it weren't for us bettors you guys would be running for blue ribbons at the county fair"
Right on dude.
With Litfin already gone, and now Crist, who is left over there at DRF?
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Well said, this is a big loss for their staff, a huge loss for horseplayers. Unfortunately, many could learn from his example. The guys that sugar coat all the crap are a joke. Never sold out.
Exotic Tickets , is the best "pic tool" ever! Helped me out so much.
Happy trails.
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07-22-2016, 03:10 AM
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vaguely on topic...
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 104
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he was one of a kind
i hope he's not done yet
the way he stood up for horseplayers was indeed a glorious thing
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07-22-2016, 11:55 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 238
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A few years back he did a daily blog during the Saratoga meet.
We were able to follow his horizontal wagers throughout the day, and then recap the events of that day's card during the evening.
I considered it part of my "fabric of Saratoga." (Along with Talking Horses and Trips and Traps
Steve would offer an opinion on about anything, including the food options at the Spa and best dark day activities. His favorite between races chow was the Hattie's Fried Chicken sandwich, which I'm sure contributed largely to the heart issues which forced his cancellation of the blog.
It would be really nice if someone close to the game at Saratoga would start something similar. Best of everything to Steve in retirement. We all feel like we know him personally.
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07-23-2016, 02:31 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 62
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PhantomOnTour
What i love most about Crist is that he's a tireless advocate for the horse player, the ones who fund the purses.
Still remember a line I read in one of his books as he addressed a horsemen's group:
"If it weren't for us bettors you guys would be running for blue ribbons at the county fair"
Right on dude.
With Litfin already gone, and now Crist, who is left over there at DRF?
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This is just a rough blow for the DRF. I can't think of the last positive thing that company has done over the past five years but it has always maintained its air of importance and sacristy among horse players because of people like Steve Crist. And they are slowly being whittled away.
Just one recent example - when Churchill Downs pulled their shenanigans with the Derby P6 money, other respected voices in the game not only defended it but spent the next month raving about what a great bet it was. Crist decried it from day 1 as an unfair ruse wronging the bettor.
So now he's gone. Who can we count on?
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07-24-2016, 10:08 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 218
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I wish SC knew the late Chuck Brendt, a great guy and handicapper, because if he did maybe some of CB's gracious and congenial personality would have rubbed off on him. Meeting SC once was enough. For any of you who knew CB and attended some of his seminars at GP in past years I am sure can attest to what a fine person and handicapper he was. May he rest in peace.
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07-24-2016, 10:16 AM
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Apprentice
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JustRalph
Does he become more vocal now!
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Nope.
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07-24-2016, 10:34 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 7,333
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PIC6SIX
I wish SC knew the late Chuck Brendt, a great guy and handicapper, because if he did maybe some of CB's gracious and congenial personality would have rubbed off on him. Meeting SC once was enough. For any of you who knew CB and attended some of his seminars at GP in past years I am sure can attest to what a fine person and handicapper he was. May he rest in peace.
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Anyone know the second worst post on the board?
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07-24-2016, 10:40 AM
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Veteran
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Lincoln, NE
Posts: 11,474
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Already missing his Saratoga blog.
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07-24-2016, 12:21 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Fall River,Mass.
Posts: 124
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the little guy
Anyone know the second worst post on the board?
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Not by a longshot.
Steve is and was a gentlemen, racing scholar...I only regret he didn't push to reveal the excess exotic takeouts after they expired. Though he may have been hamstrung by his position in the hierarchy.
He always responded to my e-mails or forwarded one to Andy Beyer back in the early 90's concerning RP route variants.
A loss to the sport and our player support.
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07-24-2016, 12:37 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 7,656
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KidCruz
This is just a rough blow for the DRF. I can't think of the last positive thing that company has done over the past five years but it has always maintained its air of importance and sacristy among horse players because of people like Steve Crist.
So now he's gone. Who can we count on?
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DRF Formulator is a positive for anyone standing upright, still wagering on this sport. Though, of course, it's been around longer than your aforementioned...past five years.
Regarding your question, who can we count on?
Advocacy is an outstanding element, and practice. We're all capable of choosing to advocate. Being always dependent upon someone else, upon others to come forward to speak for us isn't a solution. ... This is applicable in all walks of life, and interests.
If Steve Crist and Andy Beyer, both, never spoke or wrote another word about horseracing, it would be well within their right as they've done far, far more than anyone else. If they each lived in the Caymans for the rest of their lives, they surely have earned such days.
...Wishing you many days of good health and happiness, Mr.Crist. I'm glad I sat watching, listening to you and Watchmaker on the eve of this last Belmont on what may have been your last public handicapping seminar. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Take care, and thank you for the decades of commitment.
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