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FantasticDan · 06-13-2019, 12:57 PM

And Trump's all ears! Don't worry about him calling the FBI, he had the line disconnected

FantasticDan · 06-13-2019, 01:07 PM

Greyfox · 06-13-2019, 01:19 PM

There's no law against just "listening to dirt from foreign agents", nor should there be.
Grab a couple of "common sense pills" Fan Dan.

FantasticDan · 06-13-2019, 01:25 PM

Shameless apologist #1 chimes in!

elysiantraveller · 06-13-2019, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Greyfox

There's no law against just "listening to dirt from foreign agents", nor should there be.
Grab a couple of "common sense pills" Fan Dan.

Yes foreign governments should totally be encouraged to commit crimes and acts of burglary if it provides dirt on political opposition...

What the hell is the matter with you people?

This shouldn't be a partisan issue...

hcap · 06-13-2019, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greyfox

There's no law against just "listening to dirt from foreign agents", nor should there be.
Grab a couple of "common sense pills" Fan Dan.

http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?r...edition:prelim)

52 USC 30121: Contributions and donations by foreign nationals Text contains those laws in effect on June 12, 2019
From Title 52-VOTING AND ELECTIONSSubtitle III-Federal Campaign FinanceCHAPTER 301-FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNSSUBCHAPTER I-DISCLOSURE OF FEDERAL CAMPAIGN FUNDS
Jump To: §30121. Contributions and donations by foreign nationals
(a) Prohibition

It shall be unlawful for-

(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make-

(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;

(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or

(C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title); or

(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.
(b) "Foreign national" defined

As used in this section, the term "foreign national" means-

(1) a foreign principal, as such term is defined by section 611(b) of title 22, except that the term "foreign national" shall not include any individual who is a citizen of the United States; or

(2) an individual who is not a citizen of the United States or a national of the United States (as defined in section 1101(a)(22) of title 8) and who is not lawfully admitted for permanent residence, as defined by section 1101(a)(20) of title 8.

"Or other thing of value"

Show Me the Wire · 06-13-2019, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greyfox

There's no law against just "listening to dirt from foreign agents", nor should there be.
Grab a couple of "common sense pills" Fan Dan.

Otherwise Sen. Warner and Adam Schiff would be in legal trouble.

Show Me the Wire · 06-13-2019, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FantasticDan

And Trump's all ears! Don't worry about him calling the FBI, he had the line disconnected

https://twitter.com/CurtisHouck/stat...43322444242944

FanDan the purveyor of selected outrage. Where is your condemnation of Adam Schiff for his attempts on listening to dirt, on the President, from foreign nationals or Sen. Warner's attempts?

Show Me the Wire · 06-13-2019, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hcap

http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?r...edition:prelim)

52 USC 30121: Contributions and donations by foreign nationals Text contains those laws in effect on June 12, 2019
From Title 52-VOTING AND ELECTIONSSubtitle III-Federal Campaign FinanceCHAPTER 301-FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNSSUBCHAPTER I-DISCLOSURE OF FEDERAL CAMPAIGN FUNDS
Jump To: §30121. Contributions and donations by foreign nationals
(a) Prohibition

It shall be unlawful for-

(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make-

(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;

(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or

(C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title); or

(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.
(b) "Foreign national" defined

As used in this section, the term "foreign national" means-

(1) a foreign principal, as such term is defined by section 611(b) of title 22, except that the term "foreign national" shall not include any individual who is a citizen of the United States; or

(2) an individual who is not a citizen of the United States or a national of the United States (as defined in section 1101(a)(22) of title 8) and who is not lawfully admitted for permanent residence, as defined by section 1101(a)(20) of title 8.

"Or other thing of value"

Do you have case law that defines "dirt" on political opposition is contribution of money or other thing of value? If not your above citing of the statute is totally meaningless.

OntheRail · 06-13-2019, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire

Do you have case law that defines "dirt" on political opposition is contribution of money or other thing of value? If not the above referencing to the statute is totally meaningless.

Well there has to be...

We know Hillary and the DNC paid over a Million for made up Dirt from Russia. Passed if off to the Media, Brennan, Clapper and Comey. I'll admit they have gotten plenty of millage from it and sucked in their acolytes deeper... and fleeced the Tax Payers of plenty in the process. But that's Hill, the DNC and Deep State... paying for it so No Big Deal. But if any Republican or Trump rumored associate overhears of or is told Hey you heard this one? Well, ring the alarm bells and start yelling INVESTIGATE... INVESTIGATE... INVESTIGATE! What a bunch of Barney Fife's

Putin must be laughing his ass off at the Dimocrats and their Media for still shoveling this load of shit, if he was behind it all or not.

Tom · 06-13-2019, 04:33 PM

No foreign nations can do anywhere near the harm to our election as democrats do.

They at least tell us the TRUTH, something the dems never do.

reckless · 06-13-2019, 04:37 PM

Here's a reminder of who truly colluded with Putin and the Russians: Barry Obama. On a Democrat media outlet, CBS, no less!

elysiantraveller · 06-13-2019, 04:40 PM

Remember when the campaign had no contacts with Russia and this was all a witch hunt. Russia didn't interfere. The FBI and our intelligence services full of shit?

Now there were contacts, Russia did interfere, they weren't full of shit, and the President would do it again?!?!

Jokes...

JustRalph · 06-13-2019, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Remember when the campaign had no contacts with Russia and this was all a witch hunt. Russia didn't interfere. The FBI and our intelligence services full of shit?

Now there were contacts, Russia did interfere, they weren't full of shit, and the President would do it again?!?!

Jokes...

And I would happily vote for him

You know why? I learned from the Dems.

Greyfox · 06-13-2019, 05:38 PM

I repeat:
There's no law against just "listening to dirt from foreign agents", nor should there be.
Grab a couple of "common sense pills" Fan Dan.

****
I didn't realize so many morons would try and twist what I said.
That is not burglary, nor is it encouraging a foreign government to make a donation or commit acts of crime.
How fast these loons forget that Hillary's campaign funded a foreign agent for dirt on Trump (eg. The Steele Dossier) that turned out to be probable Ruskie misinformation.
The dictionary says:
Listen - give one's attention to a sound.

To listen is not against the law, nor should it be.
Trump said he'd probably listen.