Intolerance & Bigotry LGBTQ Style

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by azeri98

Depends on who you ask. A lot of people have no use for religion. There are also a lot of religious people who show little tolerance for those who don't subscribe to their ideology

And there are a lot of non-religious people who show little tolerance for those who don't subscribe to their ideology.

In fact, that seems to be the overwhelming force in play these days...so religion is pretty much a non-factor every way you slice it...it's not the fault of religion...so whose fault is it?

[baconswitchfarm]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

And there are a lot of non-religious people who show little tolerance for those who don't subscribe to their ideology.

Truth

[azeri98]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

And there are a lot of non-religious people who show little tolerance for those who don't subscribe to their ideology.

In fact, that seems to be the overwhelming force in play these days...so religion is pretty much a non-factor every way you slice it...it's not the fault of religion...so whose fault is it?

Oh I agree . Most people are intolerant of any other view other than there own these days regardless if they are religious or not. We really live in a screwed up world and the main reason is media and the rise of social media.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

And there are a lot of non-religious people who show little tolerance for those who don't subscribe to their ideology.

In fact, that seems to be the overwhelming force in play these days...so religion is pretty much a non-factor every way you slice it...it's not the fault of religion...so whose fault is it?

Do you perceive this as a moral/spiritual problem?

[classhandicapper]

I think the problem is not whether someone agrees with your philosophy/religion/lifestyle or even if they want to associate with you because of what you believe. The real problem comes about when one group tries to impose their values on others using Fed government mandates and laws or destroying the job, business, reputation and personal life of people that disagree etc... when there is no real consensus on the issue yet. These things should open for discussion without fear. If anything is done legally, it should be done at the state level until there is a strong national consensus. There's no way Texans should impose their on Californians or vice versa.

[azeri98]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Do you perceive this as a moral/spiritual problem?

No I don't. I see it more along the lines of tribal thinking sticking together. You can find media sources that confirm your stance on everything which gives you the opportunity to avoid and/or insult any other views. Everyone has different moral codes. Some try to impose theirs on others and some just keep it to themselves.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by azeri98

No I don't. I see it more along the lines of tribal thinking sticking together. You can find media sources that confirm your stance on everything which gives you the opportunity to avoid and/or insult any other views. Everyone has different moral codes. Some try to impose theirs on others and some just keep it to themselves.

People who "find media sources to confirm their stance" aren't really the majority.

Most people are just trying to live their lives and/or take care of their families and hope to have a few nickels left over to go on a vacation or buy a new car every 10-15 years.

Which makes the bought and paid for vast majority of the mainstream media so incredibly dangerous to democracy.

psyops are real

[azeri98]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

People who "find media sources to confirm their stance" aren't really the majority.

Most people are just trying to live their lives and/or take care of their families and hope to have a few nickels left over to go on a vacation or buy a new car every 10-15 years.

Which makes the bought and paid for vast majority of the mainstream media so incredibly dangerous to democracy.

psyops are real

I agree most people are just trying to live their lives without all the noise but its hard to avoid since there aren't any unbiased media anymore. Just from what I glean from your posts is that you're a pretty smart guy and that the only "news" you watch is TC. Well he's biased as well and reinforces what his audience already believes as do CNN, NBC etc. They create the division just as much as the politicians do. You can say most people are just trying to live their lives which is true but most of them all have bias as well which is either taught to them by their family or they learn it from friends or the media. Even though you might have stone cold facts or evidence to prove your point, good luck on convincing someone on the other side of the issue believing the facts or evidence. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think you believe all news organizations are pushing forward their own agenda yet when it comes to TC, you believe him because his views align with yours most of the time yet he's proven to be less than truthful.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by azeri98

No I don't. I see it more along the lines of tribal thinking sticking together. You can find media sources that confirm your stance on everything which gives you the opportunity to avoid and/or insult any other views. Everyone has different moral codes. Some try to impose theirs on others and some just keep it to themselves.

Hah...you have noticed <g>? This is because each one us naturally believes we are our own ultimate authority. And from this premise logically flows the idea that Man is the ultimate moral authority in this world. And in turn from these two flows that some of us, among the sons of men, have a better "moral system" than others;and because it's superior it must be adopted by all and implemented for all. This is precisely what we see going on in this world. We're having a war of ideologies/moral values. Of course, one of the biggest downsides to Moral Relativism is that it logically terminates in skepticism at best. Democrats don't trust Republicans and vice versa, Capitalists don't trust Socialists or Communists and vice versa. Many religions don't trust secularism and vice versa, etc. etc. Moral Relativism, therefore, is actually a breeding ground for distrust. This is precisely why, for example, Jesus boldly proclaimed that while this world seeks for peace and safety, it will never have any apart from Him.

But this isn't the end of the story either. To further aggravate the above mentioned battle, there is also a large group in this world who does not subscribe to Moral Relativism because they believe there is such a thing in this universe as objective-absolute truth, and that truth does not (and indeed cannot!) originate with us but rather is discovered by some of us. The Source of this truth is God. Of course, Christians are one large segment of this group.

[classhandicapper]

If Satan was real moral relativism would be his religion and totalitarianism would be his way of organizing people. In other words, he'd be the leader of the current democrat party.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by azeri98

I agree most people are just trying to live their lives without all the noise but its hard to avoid since there aren't any unbiased media anymore. Just from what I glean from your posts is that you're a pretty smart guy and that the only "news" you watch is TC. Well he's biased as well and reinforces what his audience already believes as do CNN, NBC etc. They create the division just as much as the politicians do. You can say most people are just trying to live their lives which is true but most of them all have bias as well which is either taught to them by their family or they learn it from friends or the media. Even though you might have stone cold facts or evidence to prove your point, good luck on convincing someone on the other side of the issue believing the facts or evidence. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think you believe all news organizations are pushing forward their own agenda yet when it comes to TC, you believe him because his views align with yours most of the time yet he's proven to be less than truthful.

TC is an opinion show.

You should get the basics straight before proceeding further.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

If Satan was real moral relativism would be his religion and totalitarianism would be his way of organizing people. In other words, he'd be the leader of the current democrat party.

I thought he was!?

[Tom]

when it comes to TC, you believe him because his views align with yours most of the time yet he's proven to be less than truthful

You've never watched CNN or MSNBC?

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by Tom

You've never watched CNN or MSNBC?

They all have their thing, want to brainwash viewers.

I found this gif interesting.

[azeri98]

Originally Posted by Tom

You've never watched CNN or MSNBC?

Yes I said that in my post. That they can't be trusted either.