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Old 09-28-2022, 01:56 PM   #1
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Sabotage of Nord Stream is an atrocity


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Putin did it and that makes sense until you thought about it for just a moment. Vladimir Putin may be evil. They tell us that he is evil, but is he stupid? Probably isn't stupid and yet and, here's the strange part, if you were Vladimir Putin, you would have to be a suicidal moron to blow up your own energy pipeline. That's the one thing you would never do.

Natural gas pipelines are the main source of your power and your wealth and most critically, your leverage over other countries. Europe needs your energy now more than ever with winter approaching. If you can't deliver that energy, then countries like Germany have no need to pay attention to what you want. You're in the middle of a war, an all hands-on deck war, so you need all the leverage you can get. Under these circumstances, there is no chance you would blow up Nord Stream 1 or 2.

Not now, obviously. In fact, it's so obvious that even as our famously dim secretary of State, Tony Blinken, seemed to acknowledge it, sabotaging Nord Stream, he said today is "clearly in no one's interest." Right, but really only half right. It is true that blowing up Nord Stream does not help Vladimir Putin. He would not do that. Why would he? But that doesn't mean that other countries wouldn't consider doing it. They would consider it and we know they have considered it because at least one of them has said so in public. In early February, less than three weeks before the war in Ukraine began, Joe Biden suggested on camera that he might take out these pipelines.
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If they did this, this will be one of the craziest, most destructive things any American administration has ever done. But it would also be totally consistent with what they do. What do they do? They destroy. These people built nothing, not one thing. Instead, they tear down and they desecrate from historic statues to the Constitution to energy infrastructure and no one in Congress is trying to stop any of it. They're just preparing for the inevitable fallout. Tonight, the Senate just advanced a spending bill with $35 million for the Department of Energy to "prepare for and respond to potential nuclear and radiological incidents in Ukraine." What?
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Old 09-28-2022, 02:06 PM   #3
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Old 09-28-2022, 02:18 PM   #4
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The Nordstream 2 pipeline allows Russia to send gas to Western Europe without paying transit fees to Ukraine and Poland. Russia just completed it in the teeth of massive opposition from Ukraine, Poland and USA. Now they are trying to convince you it was Russia who blew it up 🤣🤣
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Tulsi Gabbard is one of the last truth tellers in a country that has become a cesspool of swamp creatures and bought and paid for media swine.
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Old 09-28-2022, 03:23 PM   #6
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Where was Biden?

This sounds like his doing.
I bet the dems are partying hard over this.
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Old 09-28-2022, 03:45 PM   #7
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On the same day that the pipeline from Russia to Europe was blown up, a new pipeline was just opened from Norway to Europe.
Yeah sure, sounds like Putin did it.

At what point are US citizens going to start understanding what's going on there?
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Old 09-28-2022, 06:57 PM   #8
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Have been wondering why it took so long to happen. In love and war anything goes. Pretty much takes the opportunity away from Putin to use it as a bargaining chip. Some damage to oil infrastructure may come next.



Atrocity? Nah, unless you believe we only have a few more years to fix the carbon issue, if it can really be fixed or is even a problem.
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If only a video would surface of the perpetrators setting it up.
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Someone in a diving suit with an Iphone?
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It's quite amazing being on here and watching a Op work in real time.
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At what point are US citizens going to start understanding what's going on there?
How would you know?
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Where was Biden?

This sounds like his doing.
I bet the dems are partying hard over this.
from 7 months ago ....


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I hope Nordstrom pipeline can send some heavy winter clothing to Europe


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I hope Nordstrom pipeline can send some heavy winter clothing to Europe


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0LrQ3CEZw0
Don't know if they'll need it considering a "nuclear winter" is expected.
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