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05-18-2014, 07:18 AM
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NYRA ban on nasal strips...since CC wears one?
what they gonna do?
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05-18-2014, 07:28 AM
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NYRA won't let him run with one. Nasal strips are a standard piece of equipment in California and Cali shippers into NY have run fine without them. Non-issue IMHO.
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05-18-2014, 07:58 AM
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""I'll Have Another" would like to say otherwise....
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05-18-2014, 09:36 AM
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NYRA needs to get their act together.......I don't think it will bother Chrome but why change what's working?
Last edited by SecretAgentMan; 05-18-2014 at 09:49 AM.
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05-18-2014, 09:41 AM
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intus habes, quem poscis
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Location: Brooklyn NY
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Originally Posted by sammy the sage
what they gonna do?
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They will uphold the rule as written. Why shouldn't they? Rules must apply to all in all situations. Using this to overturn a rule makes for a bad precedent.
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05-18-2014, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by OTM Al
They will uphold the rule as written. Why shouldn't they? Rules must apply to all in all situations. Using this to overturn a rule makes for a bad precedent.
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Are you sure there's an actual "rule"? Jay Privman said on Twitter that there is no NYS or NYRA rule regarding strips, it's solely stewards' discretion.
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05-18-2014, 10:09 AM
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Location: Queens, NY
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Regardless of what they do for CC, they should get rid of that rule going forward. Unless someone knows something I don't, I see no justification for banning nasal strips.
They allow all sorts of drugs and medical procedures that make loads of fans squeamish, but somehow nasal strips are an issue? 
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05-18-2014, 10:11 AM
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if it's a true rule then he runs without them, the rule shouldn't be changed just for him. however, if it's not and it is discretionary and arbitrary then that is just stupid. not sure what the argument is against them anyway........
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05-18-2014, 10:16 AM
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I say pull the horse from the race and tell the public why you are pulling out and let the firestorm of hate mail to the racing stewards begin. I would love to be a fly on the wall when they open mountains of hate mail.
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05-18-2014, 10:18 AM
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Let's go Reds!!
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Why do harness horses get to wear them but not thoroughbreds? Screwed up NYRA rule. Either ban them from all breeds or allow for all breeds
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05-18-2014, 10:28 AM
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intus habes, quem poscis
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Location: Brooklyn NY
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Originally Posted by duncan04
Why do harness horses get to wear them but not thoroughbreds? Screwed up NYRA rule. Either ban them from all breeds or allow for all breeds
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No, there are separate rules for T-breds and harness in NYS. The rules do not have to be the same. This is the State rule and it says:
4033.8. Equipment regulated.
Only equipment specifically approved by the stewards shall be worn or carried by a jockey or a horse in a race.
For whatever reason stewards ruled against them. This is established policy which has been applied to all. The policy is based upon the New York State rule and has been determined, not by NYRA, but by the majority of the stewards, one appointed by NYS, one by NYRA, and one by the Jockey Club. For all we know the NYRA steward was in support of their use.
All this said, this is the established policy which is completely based on the rules. It is ok to change policy, but to do so to benefit one horse in one race, no matter who the horse is and what the race is, is irresponsible and a truly unfair act. If they want to change policy, then it should be done for a legitimate reason based on evidence.
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05-18-2014, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by OTM Al
They will uphold the rule as written. Why shouldn't they? Rules must apply to all in all situations. Using this to overturn a rule makes for a bad precedent.
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why not use this occasion to rescind the rule for all? why would it be a bad precedent to get rid of a silly rule?
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05-18-2014, 10:36 AM
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intus habes, quem poscis
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Location: Brooklyn NY
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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
why not use this occasion to rescind the rule for all? why would it be a bad precedent to get rid of a silly rule?
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First, why is it a silly rule?
Second, why not use the occasion of a horse running in a 16K NW2L as precedent? This occasion can be put forth as a reason why the policy should be changed, but why should it be the sole reason.
Read the article linked by FantasticDan. Kentucky and Maryland allow other things that New York does not. Should those be changed as well? Are they silly rules, whatever that means, as well?
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05-18-2014, 10:37 AM
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The reasons given in that old DRF were lame at best.
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