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View Poll Results: Should Horseplayers Take Sides in the Trainer Wars?
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Old 10-23-2009, 02:37 AM   #16
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This is the like the dogs in Under the Volcano, barking and snarling over the dwindling pie they themselves have helped to shrink. None of these clowns has ever lifted a finger to help California racing, and many of them are either known or suspected cheaters. They have, by turns, "found God," actively campaigned to pay their workman's comp insurance on the backs of bettors, scratched when they drew the rail, manipulated the hidden entry rules, etc. etc. They drive 100k cars, get plastic surgery, suck the genitals of famous owners, and NOW they want 'reform'????

That's rich, it really is. Sit in a corner and read Odets' The Big Knife--"they louse you up," the ingenue says, "and then call louse."
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Old 10-23-2009, 02:39 AM   #17
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Assuming "True" meant you agreed with one of my statements, IRU, which one didn't you understand?

If it was the latter, perhaps I should have said "Your error was WHAT you posted, not that you did [post]," but I was just so excited to find out that miesque didn't really have me on IGNORE after all.

My mistake. I meant true that i agreed with your post.
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Old 10-23-2009, 03:25 AM   #18
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I think AndyMays is great on this.When is the California pretention going to give way to reality???

Everyone apparently seems so glued to the lifestyle of the circuit that they deem the "Changes" that have occurred,all a part of the challenge.And the intellectual adaptability to be a contrarian,enigmatic,aloof horseplayer,soaring far above the maddenning crowd,even if most don't reach it,as the new lofty,aspirational goal.

Nevermind there was never a choice.

The posthumous application of virtues makes Andy's cause IMO.

If this were any circuit but Cali,it would be condemned as backwoods,po-dunk alley,and laughable.This latest chapter is just a continuity.

Tear it apart Andy.
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Old 10-23-2009, 10:32 AM   #19
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The problem in California in my opinion is that the Track Owners, Racing Executives, Racing Officials, and Politicians beholden to the Indian Casinos have absolutely ruined Horse Racing. You didn't have to be a prophet to see this coming. The Racing Media has also been absent in most (not all) cases and has contributed to the decline by choosing to ignore the tough stories.

Horseplayers think that the villains in all this are the Trainers who push the envelope, Whales who get to bet (or cancel bets) after the start, and the list goes on. Yes, these are significant problems but the real villains are the some of the Track Owners and Executives who think of Horseplayers as a "necessary evil". Behind the scenes some of them joke about the degenerates who are their customers. They love it when Horseplayers concentrate their ire on anyone but them. They laugh! Those who think that these people are something special are sadly mistaken in some cases. They are the sleazy and slimy ones who have ruined and are currently ruining racing in my opinion. The buck stops with them and they need to be held accountable!
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Old 10-23-2009, 10:48 AM   #20
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If I ever get into a fight, I will look for Andymays first.

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Old 10-23-2009, 12:26 PM   #21
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I mean I want Andy on my side first.
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Old 10-23-2009, 05:25 PM   #22
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I mean I want Andy on my side first.

I knew what you meant in the previous post. Thanks for the compliment.
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Old 10-23-2009, 06:53 PM   #23
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The problem in California in my opinion is that the Track Owners, Racing Executives, Racing Officials, and Politicians beholden to the Indian Casinos have absolutely ruined Horse Racing. You didn't have to be a prophet to see this coming. The Racing Media has also been absent in most (not all) cases and has contributed to the decline by choosing to ignore the tough stories.

Horseplayers think that the villains in all this are the Trainers who push the envelope, Whales who get to bet (or cancel bets) after the start, and the list goes on. Yes, these are significant problems but the real villains are the some of the Track Owners and Executives who think of Horseplayers as a "necessary evil". Behind the scenes some of them joke about the degenerates who are their customers. They love it when Horseplayers concentrate their ire on anyone but them. They laugh! Those who think that these people are something special are sadly mistaken in some cases. They are the sleazy and slimy ones who have ruined and are currently ruining racing in my opinion. The buck stops with them and they need to be held accountable!
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Old 10-24-2009, 08:12 AM   #24
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This is the like the dogs in Under the Volcano, barking and snarling over the dwindling pie they themselves have helped to shrink. None of these clowns has ever lifted a finger to help California racing, and many of them are either known or suspected cheaters. They have, by turns, "found God," actively campaigned to pay their workman's comp insurance on the backs of bettors, scratched when they drew the rail, manipulated the hidden entry rules, etc. etc. They drive 100k cars, get plastic surgery, suck the genitals of famous owners, and NOW they want 'reform'????

That's rich, it really is. Sit in a corner and read Odets' The Big Knife--"they louse you up," the ingenue says, "and then call louse."
Thank you. I mean, who cares what these rich people do? If they want their game to implode, then let it.
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