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03-14-2022, 11:04 PM
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Trump's a liar though.
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Definitely the type of dude who builds lasting alliances.
College buddy and I are talking about this very thing right now... he reminded me about in Brussels 2018 how Trump;
1) Insulted our allies with his opening statement.
2) Missed all of the meetings.
3) Put together the joint statement.
4) Skipped the closing ceremony.
5) Then disavowed the joint statement via tweet on AF1 as he left.
The archetype of emotional stability.
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03-14-2022, 11:06 PM
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PA Steward
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Good thing he isn't POTUS anymore then...
I guess that's why things are so much better now
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03-14-2022, 11:15 PM
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#813
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
I guess that's why things are so much better now
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Ecstatic that you think not. 
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03-14-2022, 11:19 PM
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PA Steward
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I'm personally doing better than ever.
Thankfully, I'm smarter than most folks who get trounced by foolish Biden administration policies.
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03-14-2022, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
I'm personally doing better than ever.
Thankfully, I'm smarter than most folks who get trounced by foolish Biden administration policies.
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Good. We don’t care about those people.
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03-15-2022, 02:30 AM
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if anyone knows how to get the C Span youtube video from June 20, 1997, and get to where Senator Joe Biden actually predicted this conflict with Russia to a T if NATO would admit the Baltic states into their union. i guess that was when Biden was coherent. when the turn of the century came, the United States became in favor of letting the Baltic states in. Clinton and Biden were never in favor of letting the Baltic states in.
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03-15-2022, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by lamboguy
Clinton and Biden were never in favor of letting the Baltic states in.
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Not enough graft involved, apparently.
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03-15-2022, 09:59 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Location: Canandaigua, New york
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
The gripe had nothing to do with NATO spending. That is set at every conference. The US always pays more than others since we are the linchpin of the alliance. We have tech, logistical, and communication support other nations would never need to develop anyway and it would be redundant.
That wasn't the issue.
The issue was 2% GDP domestic defense spending by other members. Most nations were close with Germany always the poster child of the bad member.
Trump, Obama, and Bush all pressured members to fulfill their obligations. It wasn't unique to Trump... they all did it and failed.
What Trump did that was different was make a complete ass out of himself, call the alliance obsolete, and repeatedly weakened us with our western allies at every turn.
His former NSA and DefSec have said he intended to withdraw if re-elected. |
So what if it got them to pay up?
And if they didn't, so what?
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03-15-2022, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by lamboguy
if anyone knows how to get the C Span youtube video from June 20, 1997, and get to where Senator Joe Biden actually predicted this conflict with Russia to a T if NATO would admit the Baltic states into their union. i guess that was when Biden was coherent. when the turn of the century came, the United States became in favor of letting the Baltic states in. Clinton and Biden were never in favor of letting the Baltic states in.
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Here is part of that, but he didn't mean militarily...
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03-15-2022, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom
So what if it got them to pay up?
And if they didn't, so what?
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It didn't.
"So what" is a lovely defense when your guy does something stupid.
"Genius" one might say.
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03-15-2022, 11:00 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
It didn't.
"So what" is a lovely defense when your guy does something stupid.
"Genius" one might say.
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Or much ado about nothing others might say.
Not defending the guy, questioning your obsession with him. Over a year later.
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03-15-2022, 11:03 AM
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PA Steward
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Originally Posted by Tom
Or much ado about nothing others might say.
Not defending the guy, questioning your obsession with him. Over a year later.
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Get it straight...it's MY obsession...lol
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03-15-2022, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Or much ado about nothing others might say.
Not defending the guy, questioning your obsession with him. Over a year later.
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I haven't been the one bringing him up.
Actually I've tried to avoid it.
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03-15-2022, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Get it straight...it's MY obsession...lol
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We agree on something!
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03-15-2022, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by davew
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that's what i was looking for..
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