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02-28-2022, 10:36 AM
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Even the Swiss are getting in on some punish Putin action
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02-28-2022, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
It's best we don't reply to each other anymore ely.
You obviously don't get where I'm coming from, and I can't stand anymore of your one-sided bullshit.
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You don't share where you're coming from and when you do it normally contradicts what you've said prior.
Biden has orchestrated a sanctions regime greater than that on the North Korea... in half a week.
Even the the Swiss are in on it.
It doesn't fit the narrative you've convinced yourself of though.
You've offered literally nothing you want to see us doing differently. Even when pressed.
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02-28-2022, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by tucker6
Just remember, Ely is a self described independent and centrist.
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More tribalism.
Domestic political views have literally nothing to do with foreign policy ones.
Foreign policy doesn't fit on a left/right spectrum.
You're a internationalist or isolationist.
You believe in multinational structures or you don't.
You follow BoP, Great Power, and realpolitik thinking or you don't.
Both parties have individuals who land on different sides of all three questions.
Biden, Trump, Obama, Bush, and Clinton would all have different combinations.
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Last edited by elysiantraveller; 02-28-2022 at 11:10 AM.
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02-28-2022, 11:19 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
You don't share where you're coming from and when you do it normally contradicts what you've said prior.
Biden has orchestrated a sanctions regime greater than that on the North Korea... in half a week.
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My position has always been that the accusations of Trump being a Russian asset and a President that did the bidding of Putin was one of the worst anti-American, anti-Democratic crimes ever committed in US history...this was perpetrated by Hillary Clinton and her campaign along with Barrack Obama and taken up by the Democratic party as a whole after Trump became POTUS. Not to mention their sycophants in the entire US legacy media structure AND the intelligence community.
This absolutely rigged the 2020 election against Trump, even if every vote cast and counted was legit.
Not only have these "Putin Puppet" accusations taken serious blows from the Durham revelations, it has been proven without a doubt to be absolutely false with the Russian invasion of Ukraine AFTER Trump left office.
No sane person could believe that if Trump truly was all he was trumped up to be by his haters, that Putin wouldn't have invaded Ukraine while Trump was president. If Putin truly had a man "on the inside" in the form of the President of the United States, there would be no way he would waste such an opportunity and wait until said "mole" was out of office to invade Ukraine.
Until all the above is addressed and resolved, nothing else matters.
It's that important.
EVERYTHING comes back to this.
If Trump wins the 2020 election, there would be no invasion of Ukraine, in my opinion.
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02-28-2022, 12:15 PM
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Location: Reno, NV
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Interesting article.
RUSSIA FEB. 24, 2022 Weapons of Financial Destruction
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“The consequences of a SWIFT cutoff would make it hard for them to transact anywhere because SWIFT is the beating heart of the global financial system,” Stetson said.
But would it work? China — which recently put out a statement with Russia to say their partnership has “no limit” — also has its own alternative to the information system, meaning that Putin would have access to a very wealthy and willing state partner. “The tech behind SWIFT is not nothing, but it’s also not brain surgery,” Smith said. “If there’s one thing the Russians have, it’s a huge amount of sophisticated IT talent.”
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SWIFT=The other “big red button” option for the West to push: kicking Russia off SWIFT, which is essentially a special, parallel internet for the global financial system — a way for banks and other institutions to send messages that move money around the globe.
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02-28-2022, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
You don't share where you're coming from and when you do it normally contradicts what you've said prior.
Biden has orchestrated a sanctions regime greater than that on the North Korea... in half a week.
Even the the Swiss are in on it.
It doesn't fit the narrative you've convinced yourself of though.
You've offered literally nothing you want to see us doing differently. Even when pressed.
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So when is Biden going to stop USA from buying Russian petroleum?
The war is subsidized by the GREEN NEW DEAL, and the hypocrites in US and Europe who don't mind buying petroleum from bad countries....
and don't mind selling coal to bad countries, because we can't use it here...
he has the Department of Interior worried about the places named Squaw ....
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/th...cid=uxbndlbing
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02-28-2022, 12:35 PM
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Location: Boston+Ocala
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if anyone remembers, before the Swift System there was Telex.this was the way they were able to do telegraphic transfers between banks worldwide.
somehow the loss of the Swift System might not be as big because of Cryptocurrencies which can be used as a way to transfer funds between continents. it will be interesting to see if this will be the new way to do transfers.
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02-28-2022, 12:35 PM
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Location: Del Boca Vista
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Originally Posted by davew
So when is Biden going to stop USA from buying Russian petroleum?
The war is subsidized by the GREEN NEW DEAL, and the hypocrites in US and Europe who don't mind buying petroleum from bad countries....
and don't mind selling coal to bad countries, because we can't use it here...
he has the Department of Interior worried about the places named Squaw ....
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/th...cid=uxbndlbing
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It's easy to replace names on a map.
Not so easy to deter Russia from intimidating Eastern Europe.
Why focus on the failures when there are easy wins, like squaw
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02-28-2022, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by davew
So when is Biden going to stop USA from buying Russian petroleum?
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Probably won't.
They can have all the rubles they want.
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02-28-2022, 12:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
My position has always been that the accusations of Trump being a Russian asset and a President that did the bidding of Putin was one of the worst anti-American, anti-Democratic crimes ever committed in US history...this was perpetrated by Hillary Clinton and her campaign along with Barrack Obama and taken up by the Democratic party as a whole after Trump became POTUS. Not to mention their sycophants in the entire US legacy media structure AND the intelligence community.
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I'm not giving this any air because there's no point...
You can complain about past grievances whether real or perceived all you want. I'm not interested in engaging with that.
I've asked you multiple times what you think Biden should be doing differently and you simply refuse to answer.
You have no ideas... the only card you have to play is the victim one.
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02-28-2022, 01:02 PM
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Buckle Up
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Just to put a end to this nonsense...
2 of those "biolabs" are in territory thats been held by Russia and Separatists for 8 years.
3 more in areas currently under nominal Russian control.
If they were real they'd be talking about them.
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Ely with the same song and dance. Go with the narrative until it blows up in your face. Then slow walk it back and sugar coat it "Well what I really meant was"...
Since you're being a Dumbass, let me clue you in....Khazaria is finally being taken out....By the roots, so it never comes back.
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02-28-2022, 01:02 PM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
I'm not giving this any air because there's no point...
You can complain about past grievances whether real or perceived all you want. I'm not interested in engaging with that.
I've asked you multiple times what you think Biden should be doing differently and you simply refuse to answer.
You have no ideas... the only card you have to play is the victim one.
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And that's the problem in a nutshell. Why should I reply to a problem I don't think should exist in the first place?
Like I said. We should no longer reply to one another.
Last edited by PaceAdvantage; 02-28-2022 at 01:03 PM.
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02-28-2022, 01:04 PM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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PS. Biden's doing the only thing he can do.
Be a team player on the world stage, instead of the leader of a supposed world superpower.
Last edited by PaceAdvantage; 02-28-2022 at 01:06 PM.
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02-28-2022, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
PS. Biden's doing the only thing he can do.
Be a team player on the world stage, instead of the leader of a supposed world superpower.
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Mediocrity reigns supreme. Exceptionalism is dead.
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02-28-2022, 01:26 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
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Whatever the outcome, Putin must be tried for war crimes, and hopefully hung.
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