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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Yeah, I know...crazy me...they weren't both diplomatic solutions, so how could I be so fucking crazy as to try and equivocate...what a nutbar I am...
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Don't listen to all that idiotic US/western propaganda. They are all FOS. Americans are dumb and dumber for listening to anything from our press.
I told you what the likely future holds.
1. Russia will continue to decimate the infrastructure of Ukraine (ongoing).
2. A hundred thousand or more Ukrainian refugees without shelter, heat, water, electricity, and food will start flowing into western Europe when the weather gets really cold during the winter.
3. The populations of the western countries will ramp up the pressure on their own governments to find a peaceful solution as the refugees pour in, their own energy and food shortages get worse, and their quality of life continues to deteriorate badly.
Then there are two possibilities.
1. Both sides will go to the table and negotiate an agreement that could have been reached BEFORE all this death and destruction.
2. European leaders under pressure from the war mongers in the US will refuse to negotiate and continue the fight.
If they choose option 2, Russia will continue decimating Ukraine.
When it gets to the point that Ukraine will be rebuilding for decades and there's no chance of NATO moving into Ukraine any time soon, Russia will declare victory and leave.
As Russia leaves the west will declare victory for saving Ukraine.
So who won?
No one. We could have negotiated peace before this ever started. Instead, we have massive death, massive destruction, hundreds of billion of dollars spent and you I will foot the bill to rebuild Ukraine.
Who really won?
Russia. Their goal of keeping Ukraine from becoming a NATO member that is a real threat to their national security would have been achieved for long enough.
How anyone cannot see how evil the US neocons are after all the unnecessary death and destruction they are responsible for around the world in the last couple of decades is amazing to me. These guys are Hitleresque evil. They never saw a country they didn't want to go to war with unless that country bowed down the US. They are literally insane. And the US population is dumb enough to buy all the propaganda whether it's Iraq, Libya, Syria, Ukraine and whoever is next. No amount of blood is enough to satisfy these Vampires.
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Decimating your own military setting it back decades.
Destroying any international prestige you might have had.
Fracturing the CSTO.
Expanding NATO.
Losing a ground war to the poorest country in Europe.
Eroding your once iron grip on power (Putin).