Thread for Russian Attack on Ukraine

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Was that Ukrainian soldier speaking Russian? lol

Probably.

Ukraine is like 70/30 with a lot speaking Russian as their native language.

Zelenkskyy's first language is Russian.

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

So Russia finally striking Kyiv....

As far as Kyiv the only reason they ever really stopped is because their inventories are so low. This is similar to the terror bombings during the blitz... Its unlikely to have any meaningful impact aside from pissing off more Ukrainians and getting them more weapons.

Just today Germany, of all places, announced they are sending over their IRIS T systems to Ukraine.

[PaceAdvantage]

With all the commonality between the two countries, it makes you wonder why it's so hard to come to the table and end this thing.

I guess one reason would be the US has zero interest in seeing that happen.

Things that make you go hmmmmm...

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

That's the narrative they want out there about him though...which is why you write about him the way you do.

My narrative is that, at best, he's waaaay off the mark.

These are the people that still keep pushing NATO and the West are at fault for all of this even after Russia has dropped that justification.

It was never about that... its about revanchism and empire.

We just witnessed a terror bombing today...

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

With all the commonality between the two countries, it makes you wonder why it's so hard to come to the table and end this thing.

I guess one reason would be the US has zero interest in seeing that happen.

Things that make you go hmmmmm...

No.

Bucha is the reason there is no chance of it at this point.

The North and the South had a lot in common too...

[TJDave]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Bucha is the reason there is no chance of it at this point.

Putin is a war criminal.

Should be tried in absentia.

Doubtful if the ICC has the cojones.

[TJDave]

A Russian soldier runs up to a nun.
“Please, let me hide under your dress, I’ll explain later”
The nun agrees.
A moment later, two military policemen run up and ask:
“Sister, have you seen a soldier?”
The nun replied, “He went that way.”
The police run away
The soldier crawls out from under the dress and says “I can’t thank you enough, Sister. You see, I don’t want to go to Ukraine.”
The nun replies, “I completely understand.”
The soldier adds, “I hope I’m not rude, but you have a great pair of legs!”
The nun replied …
“If you looked higher you’d see a great pair of balls. I don’t want to go to Ukraine either.”

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by TJDave

Putin is a war criminal.

Should be tried in absentia.

Doubtful if the ICC has the cojones.

It's hard for me to see a way this war ends before Ukraine expels Russia back to pre-2014 borders.

It could possibly freeze again but that's the only other outcome. Every city they liberate holds a new host of horrors.

The images are readily available for those that care to actually look. It's part of the reason I get so irate when I hear the bothsides nonsense.

Throughout history there haven't been a lot of good wars... this is one of them.

Good joke btw.

[davew]

both Ukraine and Russia are corrupt


How many Americans want to go to war with Russia to 'protect' Ukraine?

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by davew

both Ukraine and Russia are corrupt


How many Americans want to go to war with Russia to 'protect' Ukraine?

Whatever you got to tell yourself my guy.

Zero Americans have to go to war with Russia to protect Ukraine.

They're doing just fine.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Zero Americans have to go to war with Russia to protect Ukraine.

Keep telling yourself that...

That's why we're seeing ads for "nuclear war prep" for the first time in how many years?

NYC in fact lately...you all should really go fuck yourselves over Ukraine, IMO.

[Tom]

Armageddon is coming!
Joe said so.

But don't worry, it'll be transitory.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Keep telling yourself that...

That's why we're seeing ads for "nuclear war prep" for the first time in how many years?

NYC in fact lately...you all should really go fuck yourselves over Ukraine, IMO.

Some real Chamberlain energy here.

So you want a world where every two-bit dictator with canned sunshine just goes around making threats to get what they want?

Doesn't work that way.

C'mon man. You grew up during the Cold War... you know it doesn't work that way.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by Tom

Armageddon is coming!
Joe said so.

But don't worry, it'll be transitory.

If Russia wants to end the world because they picked a fight with the wrong dude not much we can do about it but oblige them.

Korea, Vietnam(France), Afghanistan, Sino-Soviet, Vietnam (US), Vietnam (China)... list of times this has happened before (Major power defeated militarily). I'm sure I'm forgetting some.

We're still here.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Some real Chamberlain energy here.

So you want a world where every two-bit dictator with canned sunshine just goes around making threats to get what they want?

Doesn't work that way.

C'mon man. You grew up during the Cold War... you know it doesn't work that way.

Funny, I thought testosterone levels in the USA were at an all-time low...except when it comes to Ukraine...

But seriously folks...by fuck yourself, I meant figuratively, not literally, and no offense...you weren't the only one who should.

And once again, the whole WW2 comparison is laughable.

Where's Putin (excuse me, HITLER) going to go after Ukraine? Pretty sure he will inevitably bump into a NATO country on his next move or two now that we recently scored the prizes that are Finland and Sweden.

[classhandicapper]

You know the democrats and our foreign policy must suck ass if I am on the same side as Noam Chomsky.

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