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Old 05-12-2006, 09:41 PM   #1
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House Sub Committee approves bill ..TO STOP INTERNET GAMBLING /

http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news...le.php/3603651 Dont take
this litely .. Call or write the JERK who never stops trying ...
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Old 05-12-2006, 09:59 PM   #2
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Old 05-12-2006, 10:50 PM   #3
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Big Brother wants to build "electronic borders"

to keep your gaming dollars in the U.S., but fails to do anything about the dollars which flow out of our country by illegals. Further, illegals now openingly protest, stating they should be granted full citizenship. Meanwhile our geographical borders are wide open to terrorists and Congress continues to fiddle, while Rome is burning.

I thought our government was supposed to work on behalf of it's citizens? The real truth of the matter is, the Casino lobbyists want every gambling dollar in their joints. The illegals want to be able to go back and forth across our borders, at will, and take the dollars. Sometimes, I get so tired of the Democrats and Republicans in Congress, I would like to have them arrested for treason. All they want to do is collect large pay checks until they die and argue with each other until the country is taken over by Aliens. And, I am talking about the Martian kind. Obviously, it will be those Aliens at the gates next!
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Old 05-13-2006, 11:19 AM   #4
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"Virtual betting parlors have attempted to avoid the application of United States law by locating themselves offshore and out of our jurisdictional reach," bill sponsor Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) said in a statement. "These offshore, fly-by-night Internet gambling operators are unlicensed, untaxed and unregulated and are sucking billions of dollars out of the United States."

Almost everything Goodlatte says about gambling is either wrong or uninformed.

He says "fly-by-night gambling operators" are sucking billions out of the US.

If they're sucking billions, I'd hardly call them fly-by-night.
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Old 05-14-2006, 03:05 PM   #5
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Buying and selling drugs is against the law yet it continues to grow. There is a way around everything, there is no way to inforce internet betting, all people will do is say F### the politicians wire their money to an offshore bank, from there they wire their money to an offshore wager site.I am not planning on doing this since i live 10 minutes from a track, but if I lived out in the country I would give it a lot of thought, maybe i would even change my name or i would use a person as a middle man in another country, do you see how impossible and difficult it would be to stop someone.
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Old 05-14-2006, 03:51 PM   #6
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http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news...le.php/3603651 Dont take
this litely .. Call or write the JERK who never stops trying ...
This may sound like a stupid question...Will this affect TVG...Briss..or just the offshore joints?
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Old 05-14-2006, 04:26 PM   #7
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You make some good points...however

If laws are made ...STOPPING THE CREDIT CARD companies from doing
business with the Poker Sites ...that will create a ton of problems. How
many folks are going to jump through hoops to get around that? I don't
think that any meaningful legislation will be pased...but there are some
folks in Congress who want to make a name for themselves .. so we never
really know.
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This may sound like a stupid question...Will this affect TVG...Briss..or just the offshore joints?
For years, the Justice Dept has been saying they are going to do something about internet gambling and telephone acct wagering. Now, in order to appear to be in compliance with the latest WTO ruling they say they are doing an investigation. Don't be surprised if in 14 years we hear the same things.

Will Youbet, TVG, BRIS, Winticket, etc. really get shut down. I doubt it. The racing industry is huge. Remember Mr. Farish, a former ambassador to England, is also a big US breeder. This is just sabre rattling by bureaucrats trying to justify their positions... in my humble opinion --
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State and local governments are quick to condem gambling but always eager to line up and leech the checks from it.

As long as racing can be extortioned, they will never outlaw it. This is just chest pounding with one hand while the other is in racing's pocket.
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State and local governments are quick to condem gambling but always eager to line up and leech the checks from it.

As long as racing can be extortioned, they will never outlaw it. This is just chest pounding with one hand while the other is in racing's pocket.

Agreed. Can you say Abramoff.
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Old 05-14-2006, 11:17 PM   #11
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posted by Tom -
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As long as racing can be extortioned, they will never outlaw it. This is just chest pounding with one hand while the other is in racing's pocket.
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This is just sabre rattling by bureaucrats trying to justify their positions...
I hope to God you guys are right.

I live in San Diego - Pacific Beach actually. About a quarter mile from my place there's this little bar right on the beach called Lahaina Beach House. Barstools outside on a wooden deck. Every day around sunset the place gets pretty packed. Energetic crowd. Girls everywhere. One of my favorite things to do after a winning week is walk down there, sit on the deck, throw back a Corona or two, and watch the sun set. Nice way to end a "workweek." I think about stuff when I watch the sun set. Once in a while I think: What if Prohibition were still enforced? Could anyone in Washington really be stupid enough to think the combination of beer and a wooden deck and girls and a sunset be evil enough that it deserves to be outlawed? And yet, for a while at least, it was.

Bills like this just prove to me how far away from reality those in Washington can become. If racing fans everywhere just sit back and do nothing out of pure apathy - and this passes - then we have nobody to blame but ourselves. It may not seem like much but each of us does have a voice. Express your opinion. Let them know what you think. Don't give in to apathy.

Take 15 minutes and write.

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Old 05-15-2006, 01:14 AM   #12
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Bills like this just prove to me how far away from reality those in Washington can become. If racing fans everywhere just sit back and do nothing out of pure apathy - and this passes - then we have nobody to blame but ourselves. It may not seem like much but each of us does have a voice. Express your opinion. Let them know what you think. Don't give in to apathy.

Take 15 minutes and write.

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Good idea. Why don't we draw up a letter, each of us sign it and then send it to some of the pols.
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Old 05-15-2006, 03:21 AM   #13
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The bill allows horseracing i think
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