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Old 08-25-2019, 04:11 PM   #16
KaiserSoze
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Kentucky Downs isn't on flat ground by any measure.


It is basically some guys pasture that they built a race course for horses to run and compete, and it grew bigger over the years.



It is pure Euro racing in 'Merica.
Not dissimilar to how the European courses developed themselves...although some refinements have been made over time to facilitate a smoother riding of the G1 tracks...
European race data is more akin to Tour De France cycling when you bring topography / shape of the race / peloton data into the mix with the differing terrain versus traditional track adjusted speed figure / sectional timing data

With the vastness of the country I'm just surprised there isn't more variety in American turf tracks, is it that different to designing a top level golf course for example?

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Old 08-25-2019, 07:52 PM   #17
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Kentucky is a pretty unique course, had a look on youtube and its almost like a typical European course with the sweeping bend into the straight

The variation in topography in the top UK courses is, for want of a better term, only casually considered in a descriptive format in any publicly/commercially available form figures.
Until you visit some of the tracks in person its difficult to appreciate the opportunity a horse has to unbalance itself due to a mental or physical immaturity from video / sectional analysis.

The English Oaks Enable won is probably as good an example as any in a horse having multiple questions to answer in a race and working through them

https://youtu.be/4Bd80m01fDg
looked like some drunk drivers got on the turf course
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