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Old 09-13-2019, 02:50 PM   #31
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As for that 9TH race.....

The high ratings horses 1 & 11 according to your "Q" were big time late horses
the winner was Early....

Do/Does your handicapping reflect that in some ways on how the track runs?

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Yes, it does. But, in the program it is more along the lines of how turf races in general are ran. How the track is performing on a specific day is something for me to decide. Column Q is really odds based. I am hoping that it reflects a percentage of the odds for each horse that Late Pace accounts for. I am tracking this number to see if that is true or not.

In this race, I am looking at 3 things. The designated Briss Running style, Column F, (FRS) and Column G (R1).

Ratings are from 1-5, 1 being fastest, 5 being slowest.

Focusing on the , : and .

E/P 54111 1

E/P 22211 2

P 45111 1

The first 3 numbers in FRS designate how I think each horse is rated in the race compared to the my race Par. think E1, E2, LP.

Now compare those #'s with the Briss Running style.

The rates 5 and 4 in the first two, the rates 2 and 2, and the rates 4 and 5. Both the and have E/P running styles suggesting early involvement in the race. The is rated better (lower) than the . (22 compared to 54). To me, the is much more likely to get into his running style than the in this race. The is a P runner and is rated 45, this is a good match for his running style. That is the E1 and E2 part.

Late Pace (the third #)

All three rate either 1 or 2. In the end the , and really can't be tossed on this alone. All 3 are also rate 1 or 2 in R1, and now can not be tossed.

Now look at the and . The is a E runner rated at 3 and 3, and in R1 5. The is a P runner rated at 1 and 1, and in R1 4. The can't get the lead and is a E runner, bad sign. He also rate 5 in R1. The rates 1 and 1 as a P runner. Not where you want him. rated 4 in R1. Neither horse shows that in this race their running style is a good match and both are rated to high in both late pace and R1. Tosses.

That is where I am heading with this right now. We will see what happens.

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Old 09-13-2019, 03:17 PM   #32
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Yes, it does. But, in the program it is more along the lines of how turf races in general are ran. How the track is performing on a specific day is something for me to decide. Column Q is really odds based. I am hoping that it reflects a percentage of the odds for each horse that Late Pace accounts for. I am tracking this number to see if that is true or not.

In this race, I am looking at 3 things. The designated Briss Running style, Column F, (FRS) and Column G (R1).

Ratings are from 1-5, 1 being fastest, 5 being slowest.

Focusing on the , : and .

E/P 54111 1

E/P 22211 2

P 45111 1

The first 3 numbers in FRS designate how I think each horse is rated in the race compared to the my race Par. think E1, E2, LP.

Now compare those #'s with the Briss Running style.

The rates 5 and 4 in the first two, the rates 2 and 2, and the rates 4 and 5. Both the and have E/P running styles suggesting early involvement in the race. The is rated better (lower) than the . (22 compared to 54). To me, the is much more likely to get into his running style than the in this race. The is a P runner and is rated 45, this is a good match for his running style. That is the E1 and E2 part.

Late Pace (the third #)

All three rate either 1 or 2. In the end the , and really can't be tossed on this alone. All 3 are also rate 1 or 2 in R1, and now can not be tossed.

Now look at the and . The is a E runner rated at 3 and 3, and in R1 5. The is a P runner rated at 1 and 1, and in R1 4. The can't get the lead and is a E runner, bad sign. He also rate 5 in R1. The rates 1 and 1 as a P runner. Not where you want him. rated 4 in R1. Neither horse shows that in this race their running style is a good match and both are rated to high in both late pace and R1. Tosses.

That is where I am heading with this right now. We will see what happens.
I hear you with this "Pace Shape" your trying to do here....
Just know one thing , the best horse will win despite the pace shape..
What you can get out of this is if "your" choice will get a decent setup..
I'm doing some stuff in HSH that is similar to this and I do toss horses that I feel is up against it...
Later
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Old 09-14-2019, 12:52 PM   #33
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Few for Saturday

Gulfstream

Race #3: / /

Race #5: / /

Race #11: / /

Belmont

Race #2: / /

Race #5: / /

Race #8: / /

Race #10: / /
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Old 09-14-2019, 01:01 PM   #34
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Gulfstream

Race #3: / /

Race #5: / /

Race #11: / /

Belmont

Race #2: / /

Race #5: / /

Race #8: / /

Race #10: / /
good luck...keeping an eye on this...
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good luck...keeping an eye on this...
TY, Check race #11 at GP.
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TY, Check race #11 at GP.
the 8 & 11 look tough there...you have tier 2
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the 8 & 11 look tough there...you have tier 2
Hi Mike,


I apologize for jumping in but the race in question interests me.
I would go with the (11) if I could get 4-1 at the gate. I would bet 1 unit win & place.


Mike, I like your selections in this race.

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looks to be the favorite in the early double pools.
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Hi Mike,


I apologize for jumping in but the race in question interests me.
I would go with the (11) if I could get 4-1 at the gate. I would bet 1 unit win & place.


Mike, I like your selections in this race.
Hey Bill...using Bet Mix?
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Damn, really needed the there.
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