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07-20-2023, 09:38 AM
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The whole thing makes no sense.
We are fighting over a section of Ukraine that mostly contains people formerly from Russia, that mostly speak Russian, that mostly identify as Russian, that want to be independent and closer politically to Russia, and that Ukrainian nationalists (better known as neo Nazis) were purging before the invasion.
How many thousands of people have to die?
How many hundreds of billions do we have to spend?
How much destruction are we willing to allow to happen?
How much dictatorial power are we going to give to a clown like Zelensky?
All we had to do was agree that Ukraine would remain neutral militarily (not be in NATO) in exchange for it's safety, put some wording in there that says NATO can help if it's invaded, and allow Russians to be Russians.
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07-20-2023, 10:47 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Maybe it's time for the UN (Useless Nsations) to stop worrying about F****** temperaures and start doing it's GD job.
US isa WASTING time and money being in NATO ans UN.
Let Europe take care of it's own garbage.
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07-20-2023, 02:36 PM
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#1938
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A Ukrainian helicopter crew told The Sunday Times that women in the country flash them as they fly overhead, boosting their morale as they fight Russia.
https://www.businessinsider.com/ukra...ly-over-2023-7
I hope they don't start crashing choppers.
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07-20-2023, 08:41 PM
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#1939
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Biden regime has to protect Burisma interests .... that is what they are paid to do
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07-21-2023, 09:13 AM
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I'm starting to think the US is pushing this in part because we want control over the oil, gas, coal, and rare minerals. We are allowing 100s of thousands of innocent people to get killed and an entire country destroyed so a few corporations can make more money. That's not irrational. It's being a scumbag.
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07-21-2023, 10:59 AM
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Either Biden orders Zelensky to compromise, or we get dragged into a nuclear war. My money is on the later. It could happen. For real.
And the bad guys won't wait for us to strike first. They will endeavor to get in the first punch.
Would anybody be shocked..I mean STUPIFIED to wake up some morning and find out we have been nuked? Or maybe Putin will say "mother may I , please" before launching. Or at least make sure we aren't taken by surprise.
Last edited by mountainman; 07-21-2023 at 11:05 AM.
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07-31-2023, 01:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by classhandicapper
I'm starting to think the US is pushing this in part because we want control over the oil, gas, coal, and rare minerals. We are allowing 100s of thousands of innocent people to get killed and an entire country destroyed so a few corporations can make more money. That's not irrational. It's being a scumbag.
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I don't think that's it. We were supposed to get oil from Iraq and never did. We were supposed to get natural resources from Afghanistan and never did. This is all about the Z-man and the Biden Crime Family. Joe and Hunter already made their millions and now it's Zelensky's turn for fortune and fame.
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07-31-2023, 02:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by classhandicapper
I'm starting to think the US is pushing this in part because we want control over the oil, gas, coal, and rare minerals. We are allowing 100s of thousands of innocent people to get killed and an entire country destroyed so a few corporations can make more money. That's not irrational. It's being a scumbag.
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The prime minister of Italy said the other day they have paid dearly for this war. Their inflation and energy costs have gone way up.
SO IF you do not like BIDENOMICS, we can always blame RUSSIA. 
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07-31-2023, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by xtb
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I do not know about all that, but one more hit on Moscow will prompt an immediate tactical most likely Nuclear strike on Zelensky himself. With the head of the snake gone the need for us to get deeper into this is a zero advantage.
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07-31-2023, 05:10 PM
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#1946
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Neither side is crazy enough to waste a nuke on something like Ukraine
full stop
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07-31-2023, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Neither side is crazy enough to waste a nuke on something like Ukraine
full stop
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Sure Putin is a bad man, got news for you he is just the puppet. The Kremlin wants to rebuild with oil money it is spending on this war, Putin is the mild one because they are all maniacal.
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08-01-2023, 02:48 PM
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The last act of Kissinger's life was his meeting with Xi, to help initiate the surrender of Ukraine, disguised as a peace deal.
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08-01-2023, 02:58 PM
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#1949
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Can't believe that guy is still around at 100.
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08-01-2023, 10:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fast4522
Sure Putin is a bad man, got news for you he is just the puppet. The Kremlin wants to rebuild with oil money it is spending on this war, Putin is the mild one because they are all maniacal.
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Ah okay
Thanks so much for clearing this situation up for me......... 
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