Andy Beyer chimes in on the Derby DQ

[bobphilo]

Originally Posted by Nitro

Based on what each horse has accomplished to this point what would you do as a potential breeder? If common sense prevails the answer is very simple!

At this point given that one also has to consider all races and trips as well as pedigree, I'd breed to Game Winner. After that. Improbable and Maximum Security. I'd rather wait to see what these horses do later in their careers though. If I could count non-Derby starters, I'd obviosly include Omaha Beach.

[elhelmete]

Print out the charts from the last, say, 25 KYDs and see where today's better sires ended up.

[Spalding No!]

Originally Posted by dilanesp

Cee's Tizzy was an allowance horse who, as you said, got hurt.

I guess he was an "allowance" horse the way Danzig or Red Ransom were just "allowance" horses.

He was literally a tick off the track record for both 6 furlongs and 8 furlongs in a span of just 13 days.

King of Cricket, who owned a litany of sprint stakes wins in CA, still holds the track record for 6f at 1:07 3/5.

The great Precisionist, who should need no introduction, still holds the track record for 8f at 1:33 1/5.

The fractions Cee's Tizzy set in the Super Derby (1/2 mile in :45 2/5) are also records.