"You all just don't get the point, do you?"

[burnsy]

Originally Posted by depalma113

Stop with the melodrama. Did you see the stewards inquiry light go up? She didn't want to make any call. She got caught not doing her job.

Exactly right, this is a original post of garbage. Make no mistakes this is going to court. The entire argument of The West’s lawyer will be based on the fact the Stewards did not light the board. I’m not saying they will win, probably won’t. But that’s the entire basis of claim here. The biggest race in the country and they saw nothing. Out to lunch this guy is Blightheim

[Tom]

The rules are there to protect the horses, riders, and betting public.

To say that they don't matter in a maiden claimer on a weekday says alot about the game.

The idea of not DQ'ing in a major race is ridiculous.

The idea of heading being allowed is ridiculous - this is racing, not cattle rustling. Across the country, stewards have been pretty much pathetic in both consistency and in correctness.

To allow the results of all than money rest with three people is ridiculous.

And a side note to Bob Baffert...if you want your riders to "stay clean" you better bring them in from California with you!

On the East coast, we have a "grab" bag of riders but they are like a box of chocolates - you never what ride you are going to get.

[burnsy]

The other point is . Once this gets to court, I’m not a lawyer but 3 family members are. The Stewards will be asked questions everyone knows the answers to. Basically, the racing industry and the Stewards know this too. That’s why they are saying dick now. Did you see the infraction? That’s where a possible knock out blow can be landed. Because if any of them admit seeing it. The follow up is a killer? Why didn’t you light the board if you saw the infraction?

Then they are in deep sh^t. You saw the infraction said nothing because you knew the magnitude of changing the results. Right then, the lawyer has them by the balls

[Tom]

If I were Jack McCoy cross examining the stewards, I would harp endlessly on why they did not do anything. did they see it? did they think it was not serious? I would be ruthless to show their incompetence.

But I doubt it will ever come to trial.

[f2tornado]

Originally Posted by Tom

The rules are there to protect the horses, riders, and betting public.

To say that they don't matter in a maiden claimer on a weekday says alot about the game.

The idea of not DQ'ing in a major race is ridiculous.

The same logic applies in the NFL. For better or worse, you're typically going to see less yellow laundry during the Superbowl. There really is a "let them play" mantra in the marquee event.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by f2tornado

The same logic applies in the NFL. For better or worse, you're typically going to see less yellow laundry during the Superbowl. There really is a "let them play" mantra in the marquee event.

But they do no have to protect the lives of the players and the riders and the money of the bettors. Racing is not football. You can die or be crippled falling off of a $3500 maiden filly just as easy as falling of Secretariat.

[dilanesp]

Originally Posted by burnsy

The other point is . Once this gets to court, I’m not a lawyer but 3 family members are. The Stewards will be asked questions everyone knows the answers to. Basically, the racing industry and the Stewards know this too. That’s why they are saying dick now. Did you see the infraction? That’s where a possible knock out blow can be landed. Because if any of them admit seeing it. The follow up is a killer? Why didn’t you light the board if you saw the infraction?

Then they are in deep sh^t. You saw the infraction said nothing because you knew the magnitude of changing the results. Right then, the lawyer has them by the balls

If the judge applies the law, the lawsuit will be thrown out on a motion to dismiss, with no evidence taken. Certainly no questioning of the stewards.

[f2tornado]

Originally Posted by Tom

But they do no have to protect the lives of the players and the riders and the money of the bettors. Racing is not football. You can die or be crippled falling off of a $3500 maiden filly just as easy as falling of Secretariat.

I can’t disagree, however, then there should be 10x as many DQs, particularly at the start of races. The races will go on but expect less and less money played on them. The small fry will stick to betting football after that debacle.

[Redboard]

He doesn't have a chance in court. The only thing West will get out of this is more publicity. If that's what he wants, so be it. I don't have a problem with it.

Not the same as Steve Coburn whining about California Chrome's competition which I thought was completely bush.

At least West has a good point that many have said in here for years: 20 horses in the derby is too many. He won't get anywhere legally, but it might bring it to everyone's attention.

[rabrown36]

Yes I do know that they run a whole meet in Dubai and no betting is allowed. That example does not hold weight. Those are rich people who love horse racing putting on shows. How much TV coverage, media coverage does that meet get? Us Americans love Dubai, because we can bet on them.

[hyipro]

Since their appeal was declined they have no other rights under the license
they have in KY. as they agreed that all decisions are final. And I am pretty
sure on that basis alone they would throw out any case ??

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by rabrown36

Horse racing is not a sport. It is a Gambling game. Some people like to gamble and some don't. The people who don't there is nothing a horse track can do to get these people to come. The people who do gamble have many options today. Lottery, Casinos, Daily Fantasy sports, Poker, etc.. Basically what I am saying is Horse racing is as big as it can get and in time will only get smaller, because the new generation enjoys Gambling their money in other ways. It has nothing to do with safety, animal rights or anything like that.

When Horse racing throws on an event like the Kentucky Derby, that is when you get the non-horse player to come to the track for the Event, The atmosphere, it has nothing to do with the horses, the gambling aspect of it.

That is one of my biggest problems these tracks seem to not care enough about the everyday player, the ones that keep this "sport" afloat.

If horse racing doesn't present the illusion of being a sport...then, how does it justify the fact that so many horses die every year on the track just for the sake of a "gambling game"?

[Blenheim]

As I wrote in the first sentence of this thread, those comments were extracted from the "What a wild end to this year's Derby season" thread. I researched and found those comments were written by “Mich Me Much” and can be found in the comments section here.

I must give credit where credit is due. Please direct all your kind words to Mich Me Much.

[NorCalGreg]

If I understand this-- you took some guy's post from another forum?

[Blenheim]

Originally Posted by NorCalGreg

If I understand this-- you took some guy's post from another forum?

Go to the first page in this thread and read the first sentence . . .