Horse Racing Forum - PaceAdvantage.Com - Horse Racing Message Board

Go Back   Horse Racing Forum - PaceAdvantage.Com - Horse Racing Message Board > Thoroughbred Horse Racing Discussion > Advance Deposit Wagering (ADW)


Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread
Old 11-11-2009, 05:34 PM   #1
Horseplayersbet.com
Registered User
 
Horseplayersbet.com's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 2,585
Churchill Downs Acquires Youbet

http://newsticker.welt.de/?module=smarthouse&id=966263

Will this be good for the horseplayer?
__________________

Horseplayersbet.com is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 11-11-2009, 05:54 PM   #2
DJofSD
Screw PC
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,728
It'll be good for CD.

Whether it becomes "a good thing" for the handicapper will remain to be seen. My gut says no.
__________________
Truth sounds like hate to those who hate truth.
DJofSD is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 11-11-2009, 06:36 PM   #3
andymays
Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 9,908
Just got the email from Twin Spires

Churchill Downs Incorporated to
Acquire Youbet.com, Inc.

We are very happy to announce that Churchill Downs Incorporated, ("CDI"), has entered into a definitive merger agreement under which CDI would acquire Youbet.com, Inc. There are many things that have to happen before this deal is closed and the two companies must operate independently until then. We will let you know our plans for the combined business following closing, which we expect may occur in the first half of 2010.

There are three very important things you should know today, however. First, this deal is really all about you. For horse racing to grow in the U.S. we need online wagering to grow. The combined business should give us even greater resources to invest in new features and services that you want, and that attract new customers to racing.

Second, we understand how important it is that you have trust and confidence in the company you choose to wager with online. The combined TwinSpires.com/Youbet.com business would be a publicly-traded, U.S.-licensed, U.S.-operated, U.S.-owned operator backed by the financial resources of Churchill Downs Incorporated. In addition, as part of this transaction, we also would acquire United Tote, a leading tote system provider worldwide. We also know how important the performance and integrity of the tote system is to your wagering and we are committed to improving that aspect of horse racing.

And third, we are not changing anything about how you use TwinSpires.com today. You can use the same account number or username and PIN or password to log on. The screens will remain the same. And all of the features, functions, handicapping data, live and replay video feeds, the player services staff you deal with... nothing will change as a result of this announcement.

I'll communicate with you again once the deal has closed.
Rohit Thukral
President, TwinSpires.com
Forward Looking Statements

This communication includes "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended. Such statements may include, but are not limited to, statements about the benefits of the proposed transaction, including future financial and operating results, the combined company's plans, objectives, expectations and intentions. These statements are subject to a number of risks, uncertainties and other factors that could cause our actual results, performance, prospects or opportunities, as well as those of the markets we serve or intend to serve, to differ materially from those expressed in, or implied by, these statements. You can identify these statements by the fact that they do not relate to matters of a strictly factual or historical nature and generally discuss or relate to forecasts, estimates or other expectations regarding future events. Generally, the words "believe," "expect," "intend," "estimate," "anticipate," "project," "may," "can," "could," "might," "will" and similar expressions identify forward-looking statements, including statements related to expected operating and performing results, planned transactions, planned objectives of management, future developments or conditions in the industries in which we participate and other trends, developments and uncertainties that may affect our business in the future. Such risks, uncertainties and other factors include, among other things: the possibility that the expected efficiencies and cost savings from the proposed transaction will not be realized, or will not be realized within the expected time period; the ability to obtain governmental approvals of the merger on the proposed terms and schedule contemplated by the parties; the failure of Youbet's stockholders to approve the proposed merger; the risk that CDI and Youbet businesses will not be integrated successfully; disruption from the proposed transaction making it more difficult to maintain business and operational relationships; the risk that a significant licensing agreement is terminated or not renewed; rising prices for content, the possibility that the proposed transaction does not close, including, but not limited to, due to the failure to satisfy the closing conditions; the effect of global economic conditions, including any disruptions in the credit markets; the effect of UIGEA regulations and/or the resulting policies adopted by credit card companies and other financial institutions; the effect (including possible increases in the cost of doing business) resulting from future war and terrorist activities or political uncertainties; the overall economic environment; the impact of increasing insurance costs; the impact of interest rate fluctuations; the effect of any change in our accounting policies or practices; the financial performance of our racing operations; the impact of gaming competition (including lotteries and riverboat, cruise ship and land-based casinos) and other sports and entertainment options in those markets in which we operate or are in close proximity; costs associated with our efforts in support of alternative gaming initiatives; costs associated with customer relationship management initiatives; a substantial change in law or regulations affecting pari-mutuel and gaming activities; our continued ability to effectively compete for the country's top horses and trainers necessary to field high-quality horse racing; our continued ability to grow our share of the interstate simulcast market and obtain the consents of horsemen's' groups to interstate simulcasting; our ability to execute our acquisition strategy and to complete or successfully operate planned expansion projects; our ability to successfully complete any divestiture transaction; market reaction to our expansion projects; the loss of our totalisator companies or their inability to provide us assurance of the reliability of their internal control processes through Statement on Auditing Standards No. 70 audits or to keep their technology current; our accountability for environmental contamination; the loss of key personnel; the impact of natural disasters on our operations and our ability to adjust the casualty losses through our property and business interruption insurance coverage; any business disruption associated with a natural disaster and/or its aftermath; the impact of wagering or other federal or state laws, including changes in any such laws or enforcement of those laws by regulatory agencies; the outcome of pending or threatened litigation; changes in our relationships with horsemen's groups and their memberships; our ability to reach agreement with horsemen's groups on future purse and other agreements (including, without limiting, agreements on sharing of revenues from gaming and advance deposit wagering); the effect of claims of third parties to intellectual property rights; the volatility of our stock price; the impact of live racing day competition with other Florida and Louisiana racetracks within those respective markets; a substantial change in allocation of live racing days; changes in Illinois law that impact revenues of racing operations in Illinois; the presence of wagering facilities of Indiana racetracks near our operations; our ability to execute on our permanent slot facility in Florida; the need for various alternative gaming approvals in Louisiana; our ability to integrate businesses we acquire, including our ability to maintain revenues at historic levels and achieve anticipated cost savings; and the outcome of any claims arising in connection with a pending lawsuit in federal court in the Western District of Kentucky styled Churchill Downs Incorporated, et al v. Thoroughbred Horsemen's Group, LLC, Case #08-CV-225-S]. See CDI's and Youbet's Annual Reports on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended December 31, 2008 and other public filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission (the "SEC") for a further discussion of these and other risks and uncertainties applicable to our businesses. Neither CDI nor Youbet undertakes any duty to update any forward-looking statement whether as a result of new information, future events or changes in our respective expectations.

Important Merger Information and Additional Information
This communication is being made in respect of the proposed merger transaction involving CDI and Youbet. In connection with the proposed transaction, CDI will file with the SEC a registration statement on Form S-4and Youbet will mail a proxy statement/prospectus to its stockholders, and each will be filing other documents regarding the proposed transaction with the SEC as well. BEFORE MAKING ANY VOTING OR INVESTMENT DECISION, INVESTORS ARE URGED TO READ THE PROXY STATEMENT/PROSPECTUS REGARDING THE PROPOSED TRANSACTION AND ANY OTHER RELEVANT DOCUMENTS CAREFULLY IN THEIR ENTIRETY WHEN THEY BECOME AVAILABLE BECAUSE THEY WILL CONTAIN IMPORTANT INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROPOSED TRANSACTION. The final proxy statement/prospectus will be mailed to Youbet stockholders. You may obtain copies of all documents filed with the SEC concerning this proposed transaction, free of charge, at the SEC's website www.sec.gov, by accessing CDI website at www.churchilldownsincorporated.com under the heading "Investor Relations" and then under the link "SEC Filings" or from CDI by directing a request to 700 Central Avenue, Louisville, KY 40208. Alternatively, you may obtain copies by accessing Youbet's website at www.Youbet.com under the heading "Investors Relations" and then under the link "SEC Filings" or from Youbet by directing a request to 5901 De Soto Avenue, Woodland Hills, CA 91367.

CDI and Youbet and their respective directors and executive officers and other persons may be deemed to be participants in the solicitation of proxies in respect of the proposed transaction. Information regarding CDI directors and officers is available in CDI's proxy statement for its 2009 annual meeting of shareholders and CDI's 2008 Annual Report on Form 10-K, which were filed with the SEC on April 28, 2009 and March 4, 2009, respectively. Information regarding Youbet directors and executive officers is available in Youbet's proxy statement for its 2009 annual meeting of stockholders and Youbet's 2008 Annual Report on Form 10-K, which were filed with the SEC on April 30, 2009 and March 6, 2009, respectively. Other information regarding the participants in the proxy solicitation and a description of their direct and indirect interests, by security holding and otherwise, will be contained in the proxy statements/prospectus and other relevant materials to be filed with the SEC when they become available.
andymays is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 11-11-2009, 06:56 PM   #4
Charli125
Registered User
 
Charli125's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sioux Falls, SD
Posts: 1,028
If ever there was a corporation with the resources and know-how to overhaul the tote system, it's this new merged entity. For now I'm going to be cautiously optimistic.
Charli125 is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 11-11-2009, 07:14 PM   #5
DJofSD
Screw PC
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,728
Andy, I saw your post and checked my email folders. Yep, there is was.

I read it and gagged. What a pile of horse puckie.

Quote:
First, this deal is really all about you. For horse racing to grow in the U.S. we need online wagering to grow. The combined business should give us even greater resources to invest in new features and services that you want, and that attract new customers to racing.
No, it is not about me. Save the smoozing for some one that just fell off the turnip truck.

Given that most revenues for racing comes via online wagering, the 2nd sentence is a given.

Combining resources of the two businesses -- what exactly does that mean? I'll tell you what it does mean. It means that some people will be losing their job. And very likely offices combined along with changes to computer systems, wagering platforms and support staff.

There will be new customers only because there is now one less choice of companies with which to do business.

Quote:
Second, we understand how important it is that you have trust and confidence in the company you choose to wager with online. The combined TwinSpires.com/Youbet.com business would be a publicly-traded, U.S.-licensed, U.S.-operated, U.S.-owned operator backed by the financial resources of Churchill Downs Incorporated. In addition, as part of this transaction, we also would acquire United Tote, a leading tote system provider worldwide. We also know how important the performance and integrity of the tote system is to your wagering and we are committed to improving that aspect of horse racing.
I don't trust any company that can not produce records and information when a question is asked about a wagering discreptancy.

The rest of the second paragraph/marketing point is just so much fluff and hype. The performance and integrity statement about the tote system is a hoot. Sure it is important. It is the industry's life blood. And, no one can disprove an assertion of commitment to improve it. They could have made it a simpler statement by saying they are going to try to make it better. Keyword: try. It gives them an excuse that when You Bet is a fading memory and nothing has changed they'll be able to say, 'Well, we did try but we can't change what we don't control. We're at the mercy of laws and regulations we can't control or change.'

Quote:
And third, we are not changing anything about how you use TwinSpires.com today. You can use the same account number or username and PIN or password to log on. The screens will remain the same. And all of the features, functions, handicapping data, live and replay video feeds, the player services staff you deal with... nothing will change as a result of this announcement.
As a TS user, I would hope nothing would change for me since TS is the acquiring company. I wonder if the You Bet user information will be unchanged. Doubt it. There is no way TS will continue to operate two different systems. It will be like any bank or S & L that gets taken out: there will be a merging of the accounts onto the TS systems but the user interface, etc. will be TS'.
__________________
Truth sounds like hate to those who hate truth.
DJofSD is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 11-11-2009, 07:30 PM   #6
JimG
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: GA
Posts: 2,860
2 things came to mind when I saw this:

1) Will TwinSpires retain WagerPad Pro which I feel is the best wagering interface in the business.

2) Less competition. Will wagering fees be far behind?

I hope it is good for the player but in the past when one entity was in a fight with a racing jurisdication, I was usually able to bet through the other.
JimG is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 11-11-2009, 08:09 PM   #7
andymays
Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 9,908
As Horseplayers we're all on a Roller Coaster with no brakes and no control.

We could stop playing until the dust settles though.

It's gonna take some kind of Super Hero to save the Sport and save us!

Last edited by andymays; 11-11-2009 at 08:12 PM.
andymays is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 11-11-2009, 08:27 PM   #8
DJofSD
Screw PC
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,728
Help us, Obi-Wan Kenobi; you’re our only hope…
__________________
Truth sounds like hate to those who hate truth.
DJofSD is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 11-11-2009, 08:31 PM   #9
andymays
Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 9,908
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJofSD
Help us, Obi-Wan Kenobi; you’re our only hope…

I don't know why but I was thinking Underdog!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XRil07h5uE


I vote for Underdog to be the HANA mascot!

Last edited by andymays; 11-11-2009 at 08:35 PM.
andymays is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 11-11-2009, 08:39 PM   #10
DJofSD
Screw PC
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,728
Ah yes, childhood Saturday morning cartoons!

I'll counter with Superchicken (...when you find yourself in danger, when you're threatened by a stranger...) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKss2pBYQ6Y
__________________
Truth sounds like hate to those who hate truth.
DJofSD is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 11-11-2009, 08:45 PM   #11
Tom
The Voice of Reason!
 
Tom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
Posts: 112,810
This is bad. We need more competition, not less.
CD has shown a total disdain for the bettors.
If it is good for CD, it is bad for us.

Aren't there monopoly laws?

I may be out of this game long before the next BC on plastic.
__________________
Who does the Racing Form Detective like in this one?
Tom is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 11-11-2009, 08:55 PM   #12
andymays
Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 9,908
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJofSD
Ah yes, childhood Saturday morning cartoons!

I'll counter with Superchicken (...when you find yourself in danger, when you're threatened by a stranger...) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKss2pBYQ6Y

andymays is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 11-11-2009, 09:48 PM   #13
Stillriledup
Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 25,607
Quote:
Originally Posted by Horseplayersbet.com
http://newsticker.welt.de/?module=smarthouse&id=966263

Will this be good for the horseplayer?

No.
Stillriledup is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 11-12-2009, 01:15 AM   #14
ranchwest
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: near Lone Star Park
Posts: 5,151
I guess my You Bet cap will soon be a collector's item.
__________________
Ranch West
Equine Performance Analyst, Quick Grid Software
ranchwest is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 11-12-2009, 01:44 AM   #15
Robert Goren
Racing Form Detective
 
Robert Goren's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Lincoln, Ne but my heart is at Santa Anita
Posts: 16,316
What is Youbet stock worth these days. I have not followed it for years. I know when used to wager there in late 90s they could not give it away. I lost interest them when they give me the boot for living in the wrong state. Back then they had a good chat site. A couple trainer's kids would be on there when their dad's horse were running.
__________________
Some day in the not too distant future, horse players will betting on computer generated races over the net. Race tracks will become casinos and shopping centers. And some crooner will be belting out "there used to be a race track here".
Robert Goren is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Reply





Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

» Advertisement
» Current Polls
Wh deserves to be the favorite? (last 4 figures)
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:54 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 1999 - 2023 -- PaceAdvantage.Com -- All Rights Reserved
We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program
designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.