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02-17-2010, 12:27 AM
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EXCEL with SUPERFECTAS
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Any horse that I determine needs a rest. Automatic "X" out.
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02-17-2010, 01:50 AM
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A horse who often goes off as favorite but seldomly wins. Some horses just like running with their competition and don't care to have their head in front. Obviously not a total crossout but its something to consider.
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02-17-2010, 02:42 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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I hate to see horses who run declining speed figures while dropping 2 or more levels in class.
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02-17-2010, 03:44 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: New Jersey
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A good horse with a big class drop following a double-digit length loss and a lay-off. They usually lose ... but not always.
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02-17-2010, 07:26 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2003
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Any horse whose name includes the word "zippy".
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02-17-2010, 07:34 AM
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Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2009
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Gill's colors on the jockey on the horse. 
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02-17-2010, 09:23 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Gods County, United Kingdom
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Raceday meds
Totally uneeded as proven in other countries around the World.
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02-17-2010, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Charlie D
Raceday meds
Totally uneeded as proven in other countries around the World.
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Conversely, 1st time starters running without lasix.I don't like drug use but this seems to be a negative.
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02-17-2010, 09:44 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Gods County, United Kingdom
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Plenty of trainers, connections come to US, purchase from stock that have raced on Lasix and other dope, bring those horse back to race in UK without the asisstance of Drugs.
Also, as stated, plenty of other countries race without Dope on raceday.
If that is not proof that raceday meds should be thrown in trash today, i do not know what is.
Last edited by Charlie D; 02-17-2010 at 09:48 AM.
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02-17-2010, 09:56 AM
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Racing Form Detective
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Lincoln, Ne but my heart is at Santa Anita
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I agree that racing could do without the drugs, but to ignore them when making a wager is folly.
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02-17-2010, 10:01 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Gods County, United Kingdom
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Your of course correct Robert.
I'll stop with my rant now, because i think we may be taking thread down an unintended route'
Back on topic, Sweating up badly, misbehavoir going down and at start is off putting.
Last edited by Charlie D; 02-17-2010 at 10:04 AM.
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02-17-2010, 10:57 AM
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C'est Tout
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Cajunland
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Originally Posted by castaway01
"Lugged in" or "drifted out" in the last race comments is a negative. Sometimes it's sign the horse was hurting on one side, and even if it's not, it's best to keep going straight. If I'm going to bet on a horse with these tendencies, I need some other serious positives.
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Yup 
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02-17-2010, 11:24 AM
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Racing Form Detective
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Lincoln, Ne but my heart is at Santa Anita
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Originally Posted by Charlie D
Back on topic, Sweating up badly, misbehavoir going down and at start is off putting.
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A jockey doing these things is aways a bad sign. Oh, you meant the horse. Sorry I just couldn't resist. 
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02-17-2010, 11:29 AM
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Location: Gods County, United Kingdom
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I can't say i've seen it Robert, but jockey sweating badly and misbehaving would probably be off putting too. 
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02-17-2010, 12:05 PM
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Regarding sweating-years ago when I actually went to the track a friend of mine had several horses with trainer Joe Broussard. I remember him (Broussard) saying if a certain runner of his wasn't sweating profusely don't bet him-he won't run good. I followed this horse for some time and damn if he wasn't right. The horse never ran well when he looked cool and collected,and did run well when sweaty-sweaty to the point that the jockey spent 1/2 the post parade scrapping foam with his whip. When it comes to sweating I think it pays to know when its a good thing or a bad thing.
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