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02-18-2018, 05:30 PM
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If God exists, then he is the one who is allowing these things to happen. So...the largest part of the blame should go to him.
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02-18-2018, 05:46 PM
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Very jumbled statements, can you splain it.
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02-18-2018, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by woodtoo
Very jumbled statements, can you splain it.
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Who...ME?
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02-18-2018, 06:04 PM
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Who...ME?
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No. Just the last couple pages in general.
Actually it was meant for Dan about everything.
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02-18-2018, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
If God exists, then he is the one who is allowing these things to happen. So...the largest part of the blame should go to him.
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Two things: First, He could only be morally culpable if he were unjust in allowing "these things" to happen.
Secondly, the fact that He allows "these things" to happen proves that God isn't a liar and is bringing his promise of the curse/penalty for sin to fulfillment, which in turn proves he's righteous.
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02-18-2018, 06:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thaskalos
If God exists, then he is the one who is allowing these things to happen. So...the largest part of the blame should go to him.
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You think He sits there guiding our every move?
He doesn't allow or forbid anything - we make those choices.
That's why we are here.
When you're God, death is not a bad thing.
Or, if He doesn't exist, none of it matters anyways.
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02-18-2018, 06:09 PM
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I agree, Ralph's stand-up routine is a ridiculous hoot!
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You do not think that is why the FF put the 2nd amendment into the Constitution?
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02-18-2018, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Two things: First, He could only be morally culpable if he were unjust in allowing "these things" to happen.
Secondly, the fact that He allows "these things" to happen proves that God isn't a liar and is bringing his promise of the curse/penalty for sin to fulfillment, which in turn proves he's righteous.
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Are you suggesting that God is "justified" in his refusal to stop the killings of these kids...when it's in his power to stop such atrocities? If allowing the slaughter of kids is "just"...then, what do you consider UNJUST?
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02-18-2018, 06:10 PM
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and i had a nice chuckle too.
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And you are some kind of Constitutional expert, I guess?
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02-18-2018, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
You think He sits there guiding our every move?
He doesn't allow or forbid anything - we make those choices.
That's why we are here.
When you're God, death is not a bad thing.
Or, if He doesn't exist, none of it matters anyways.
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Well...the bible does say that "not a hair falls from our heads without God wishing it so...".
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02-18-2018, 06:14 PM
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Well...the bible does say that "not a hair falls from our heads without God wishing it so...".
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Well the Bible is wrong.
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02-18-2018, 06:15 PM
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Oh,oh, I smell a "Religion III" thread coming up.!
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02-18-2018, 06:18 PM
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Enough then...this thread isn't about religion...
It should be about the societal decay that results in people thinking it's cool to go into a school and murder men, women, children, teenagers, etc.
Oh, that's right...it's the gun's fault...I forgot for a moment.
Get rid of the guns, get rid of the problem.
life is so simple, isn't it?
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02-18-2018, 06:18 PM
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Well the Bible is wrong.
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That's what I've been telling Boxcar all along.
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02-18-2018, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
Are you suggesting that God is "justified" in his refusal to stop the killings of these kids...when it's in his power to stop such atrocities? If allowing the slaughter of kids is "just"...then, what do you consider UNJUST?
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God is justified in fulfilling his curse promise due to sin; for there is no man who does not sin. Not even a righteous man can continue indefinitely in his righteousness and not sin (Eccl 7:20). How much more, then, the unrighteous?
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