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03-25-2019, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Dahossdaboss
He’s been making a buffoon out of himself for a LONG time.
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My Rachel Alexandra stalker is back. So many people are allergic to the truth.
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03-25-2019, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by horses4courses
HRC was a bad candidate.
I agree with that, and I'm not convinced she'd have been any better as POTUS.
Imagine this, though.
She's been in office for over 2 years now, and still refuses to release her
tax returns. Those righties would be out with pitchforks in the streets!
No....what am I saying?
There would be more semi-automatic weapons than pitchforks.
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OR, her tax returns have already been submitted to the IRS and none of our business.
Look, she has proven to be outside the DOJ and FBI, what possible use would seeing her tax returns be?
I don't need to see anyone's tax returns or their medical records.
Just put all the candidates on a street curb and lets see for ourselves how fit they are!"
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03-25-2019, 04:12 PM
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We've been down this road so many times, I'm sick of it.
No sane person disputes that Russia interfered in our 2016 elections.
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BUT, what effect did their meddling have?
Surely you are not saying it was enough to make intelligent democrats vote for Trump?
Why, Hillary got 3 million more votes than Trump did.
So tell me again just how the RUSSIANS affected the election.
Interfered with doesn't equal affected.
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03-25-2019, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by horses4courses View Post
Wouldn't you think that Russia would have more to gain
if the "leftist pinkos" were in power?
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Like 2009-2017?
Especially "after the elections of 2012" when the Big 0 could do more?
Or after the Hillary "re-set."
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03-25-2019, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
BUT, wha effect did their meddling have?
Surely you are not saying it was enough to make intelligent democrats vote for Trump?
Why, Hillary got 3 million more votes than Trump did.
So tell me again just how the RUSSIANS affected the election.
Interfered with doesn't equal affected.
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I don’t think the meddling impacted anyone who was already going to vote for Trump or Hillary. But couldn’t a case be made that if you were on the fence their meddling might have swayed you in one direction?
Truth be told I’m not even sure it helped Trump. But the plan was to help him and a lot of his associates have ties to Russia. All in all it’s at best just a bad look.
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03-25-2019, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
BUT, wha effect did their meddling have?
Surely you are not saying it was enough to make intelligent democrats vote for Trump?
Why, Hillary got 3 million more votes than Trump did.
So tell me again just how the RUSSIANS affected the election.
Interfered with doesn't equal affected.
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You don't think the Wikileaks stuff affected the election?
Some gems from the past from a couple of people here...
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Originally Posted by classhandicapper
Thank God we had Wikileaks to expose the crooked and subversive DNC and Podesta and their ties to the MSM. If sites like that start getting banned from Facebook, Twitter, Google searches etc.. it's time for boycotts and other action against them because that means we are on the path to everything this country is NOT and millions have died to prevent.
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Originally Posted by Tom
We should be paying Julian.
He has done more for America than Obama and the entire democratic party combined.
He will go down as a pioneer of then new electronic age.
He has re-written the rules.
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Originally Posted by Tom
If the Russians did indeed hack those emails and release them to influence the election, I say......GOOD.
Our own media was "bigly" influencing it long before Putin.
Are we better or worse off for knowing the contents of those emails?
Thanks you, Mr. Putin,
You are more of an American than our media knuckleheads.
Ex-especially the garbage at PMSNBC.
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But now you guys say it didn't affect anything? Interesting...
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03-25-2019, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
But now you guys say it didn't affect anything? Interesting...
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Interesting that you equate (is the same) the asking for evidence that an attempt was successful as sating it didn't affect anything.
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03-25-2019, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Dahossdaboss
I don’t think the meddling impacted anyone who was already going to vote for Trump or Hillary. But couldn’t a case be made that if you were on the fence their meddling might have swayed you in one direction?
Truth be told I’m not even sure it helped Trump. But the plan was to help him and a lot of his associates have ties to Russia. All in all it’s at best just a bad look.
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But, OBAMA himself was at the wheel when this happened, so it is HIS and the DEMS's fault. Now they try to pin it on Trump. OBama said it was ridiculous that
they could interfere.
It is a real bad look, when the fault of it all lies with those pointing the fingers and NOT fixing the problem.
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03-25-2019, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
But, OBAMA himself was at the wheel when this happened, so it is HIS and the DEMS's fault. Now they try to pin it on Trump. OBama said it was ridiculous that
they could interfere.
It is a real bad look, when the fault of it all lies with those pointing the fingers and NOT fixing the problem.
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So it’s the Democrat’s fault that Russia interfered in an effort to get a Republican elected? That’s a tough sell for me.
Trump’s associates who facilitated it are blameless?
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03-25-2019, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
But, OBAMA himself was at the wheel when this happened, so it is HIS and the DEMS's fault. Now they try to pin it on Trump. OBama said it was ridiculous that
they could interfere.
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Such a hypocrite.
You know full well (but, of course, would never admit it) that had HRC won
the WH, and Russian interference was evident, you would be howling.
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03-25-2019, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Dahossdaboss
So it’s the Democrat’s fault that Russia interfered in an effort to get a Republican elected? That’s a tough sell for me.
Trump’s associates who facilitated it are blameless?
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Comedy gold. Tump's associates who Mueller couldn't find facilitated Russia helping Trump to get elected.
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03-25-2019, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Dahossdaboss
So it’s the Democrat’s fault that Russia interfered in an effort to get a Republican elected? That’s a tough sell for me.
Trump’s associates who facilitated it are blameless?
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Well Barry did say no interference.. and he was the in charge. So any failures to stop would be on him the Dem's head man.
Your joking right... even Mueller disputes your assumption.
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03-25-2019, 04:47 PM
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#103
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Originally Posted by horses4courses
Such a hypocrite.
You know full well (but, of course, would never admit it) that had HRC won
the WH, and Russian interference was evident, you would be howling.
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Wow, just wow. An Adam Schiff acolyte, I have seen the evidence, but don't ask me for it.
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03-25-2019, 04:52 PM
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#104
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Originally Posted by horses4courses
Such a hypocrite.
You know full well (but, of course, would never admit it) that had HRC won
the WH, and Russian interference was evident, you would be howling.
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It was never evident... till they manufactured it out of revenge cause Hill fell... when she was a shoe in.
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03-25-2019, 04:54 PM
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#105
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Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire
Comedy gold. Tump's associates who Mueller couldn't find facilitated Russia helping Trump to get elected.
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Manafort, Flynn, et al.
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