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03-24-2019, 03:57 PM
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Just another Facist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Now in Houston
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Barr letter is out.
No collusion
No obstruction
Done!
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03-24-2019, 03:58 PM
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#2462
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Quintessential guru
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 11,254
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hcap
Chumpy may not have believed Comey, that he was not, but the fact remains. Chunpy asked then FBI Director James Comey in private to give a pass to his then national security adviser, Michael Flynn , for lying to the FBI about his conversations with then-Russian Ambasador Sergey Kislyak.
There are many other examples of obstruction of justice Mueller is looking at
Intimidation, Pressure and Humiliation: Inside Trump’s Two-Year War on the Investigations Encircling Him
President Trump’s efforts have exposed him to accusations of obstruction of justice as Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel, finishes his work.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/19/u...tigations.html
And.....
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgo...esident-trump/
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Read my above posts. No obstruction per Rosenstein, who oversaw Mueller, and by A.G. Barr.
No investigation no nexus for obstruction
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03-24-2019, 04:00 PM
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Quintessential guru
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 11,254
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JustRalph
Barr letter is out.
No collusion
No obstruction
Done!
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Correct. Next step will be the DoJ will transfer the SDNY investigation to the main offices in D.C. Where it belongs.
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03-24-2019, 04:02 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Saratoga N Y
Posts: 1,135
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WINNING except for the tax payers 25 MILLION for a report that proves there wasnt any dealing with russia what a bunch of a holes cant wait for ruthy to retire and make a perfect 8 years 6 conservative justices
Last edited by porkchop; 03-24-2019 at 04:04 PM.
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03-24-2019, 04:03 PM
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Quintessential guru
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Last edited by Show Me the Wire; 03-24-2019 at 04:08 PM.
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03-24-2019, 04:13 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Behind the Pine Curtain
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JustRalph
Barr letter is out.
No collusion
No obstruction
Done!
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Yeah but...chumpy... he's going to prison still. .right?,
I just find the angst and backpedal of dems on this, funny.
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03-24-2019, 04:16 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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Interesting stuff in that letter.
Curious to see if the Team Trump pushes to release it or not.
I highly doubt it...
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03-24-2019, 04:35 PM
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Location: donkeys ride from ASD
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hcap
Chumpy may not have believed Comey, that he was not, but the fact remains. Chunpy asked then FBI Director James Comey in private to give a pass to his then national security adviser, Michael Flynn , for lying to the FBI about his conversations with then-Russian Ambasador Sergey Kislyak.
There are many other examples of obstruction of justice Mueller is looking at
Intimidation, Pressure and Humiliation: Inside Trump’s Two-Year War on the Investigations Encircling Him
President Trump’s efforts have exposed him to accusations of obstruction of justice as Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel, finishes his work.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/19/u...tigations.html
And.....
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgo...esident-trump/
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You are a joke!! #StickAForkInIt
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03-24-2019, 04:46 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
Posts: 112,861
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Who does the Racing Form Detective like in this one?
Last edited by Tom; 03-24-2019 at 04:54 PM.
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03-24-2019, 04:53 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Ketchikan,AK
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Obama on rigging an Election
This story was originally posted on RCP Video on October 18, 2016: In a press conference a few weeks before the 2016 election, President Barack Obama told Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump to "stop whining" about the possiblity that the election could be "rigged," saying that there is no evidence that election rigging has ever happened or could ever happen.
"There is no serious person out there who would suggest that you could even rig America's elections, in part because they are so decentralized. There is no evidence that that has happened in the past, or that there are instances that that could happen this time," the president said to the future president in October 2016.
"Democracy survives because we recognize that there is something more important than any individual campaign, and that is making sure the integrity and trust in our institutions sustains itself. Becasue Democracy works by consent, not by force," Obama said.
"I have never seen in my lifetime or in modern political history, any presidential candidate trying to discredit the elections and the election process before votes have even taken place. It is unprecedented. It happens to be based on no fact. Every expert regardless of political party... who has ever examined these issues in a serious way will tell you that instances of significant voter fraud are not to be found. Keep in mind elections are run by state and local officials."
"That is both irresponsible and, by the way, doesn't really show the kind of leadership and toughness you'd want from a president," he also said. "You start whining before the game is even over? If whenever things are going badly for you and you lose, you start blaming somebody else. Than you don't have what it takes to be in this job."
"And if he gets the most votes, it would be my expectation of Hillary Clinton to offer a gracious concession speech and pledge to work with him in order to ensure that the American people benefit from an effective government. And it would be my job to welcome Mr. Trump, regardless of what he has said about me, or my differences with him, and escort him over to the Capitol at which there would be a peaceful transfer of power. That is what Americans do. That is why America is already great. One way to make it less great, is if you start betraying those basic American traditions that have been bipartisan and have helped to hold together this democracy now for well over two centuries."
"So I'd advise Mr. Trump to stop whining, and go make his case to get votes," the president said strongly.
And for the last two years "Russia did it" Think democrats will accept the investigation results???
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03-24-2019, 04:56 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 17,095
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire
hcap,
You, as we all, should be happy that no U.S. citizen or the campaign conspired with Russia.
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03-24-2019, 05:03 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
Posts: 112,861
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#2740....
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Who does the Racing Form Detective like in this one?
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03-24-2019, 05:03 PM
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Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 22,647
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisl
This story was originally posted on RCP Video on October 18, 2016: In a press conference a few weeks before the 2016 election, President Barack Obama told Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump to "stop whining" about the possiblity that the election could be "rigged," saying that there is no evidence that election rigging has ever happened or could ever happen.
"There is no serious person out there who would suggest that you could even rig America's elections, in part because they are so decentralized. There is no evidence that that has happened in the past, or that there are instances that that could happen this time," the president said to the future president in October 2016.
"Democracy survives because we recognize that there is something more important than any individual campaign, and that is making sure the integrity and trust in our institutions sustains itself. Becasue Democracy works by consent, not by force," Obama said.
"I have never seen in my lifetime or in modern political history, any presidential candidate trying to discredit the elections and the election process before votes have even taken place. It is unprecedented. It happens to be based on no fact. Every expert regardless of political party... who has ever examined these issues in a serious way will tell you that instances of significant voter fraud are not to be found. Keep in mind elections are run by state and local officials."
"That is both irresponsible and, by the way, doesn't really show the kind of leadership and toughness you'd want from a president," he also said. "You start whining before the game is even over? If whenever things are going badly for you and you lose, you start blaming somebody else. Than you don't have what it takes to be in this job."
"And if he gets the most votes, it would be my expectation of Hillary Clinton to offer a gracious concession speech and pledge to work with him in order to ensure that the American people benefit from an effective government. And it would be my job to welcome Mr. Trump, regardless of what he has said about me, or my differences with him, and escort him over to the Capitol at which there would be a peaceful transfer of power. That is what Americans do. That is why America is already great. One way to make it less great, is if you start betraying those basic American traditions that have been bipartisan and have helped to hold together this democracy now for well over two centuries."
"So I'd advise Mr. Trump to stop whining, and go make his case to get votes," the president said strongly.
And for the last two years "Russia did it" Think democrats will accept the investigation results???
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He was lying. Many people realize he was involved with the CIA, FBI, DOJ to use FSIS to spy on competition in order to help win election for Hillary and continue the 'great progress' he started in turning the United States into a 3rd world country.
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03-24-2019, 05:07 PM
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#2474
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
Posts: 112,861
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JustRalph
Barr letter is out.
No collusion
No obstruction
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No shit!
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03-24-2019, 05:11 PM
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#2475
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Quintessential guru
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 11,254
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Quote:
Originally Posted by porkchop
WINNING except for the tax payers 25 MILLION for a report that proves there wasnt any dealing with russia what a bunch of a holes cant wait for ruthy to retire and make a perfect 8 years 6 conservative justices
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And that our justice system was threatened, by having an investigation without evidence of a crime. Our system is based on a crime happening, meaning there is evidence of a crime, before there is an investigation.
People like Comey perverted our justice system and they should be held accountable.
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