Varsity Blues Scandal

[MargieRose]

Originally Posted by jocko699

Infrastructure projects all over the country to include road work, etc... Of course they will be under the supervision of senior personnel.

Excellent suggestion!

[sammy the sage]

Originally Posted by MargieRose

Since you seem to know, can you provide examples of what you claim not to be true about OUR current POTUS?? What is it that you know about how his kids were brought up?

IMO, a discipline that should be required of ALL kids: two years of military service directly after high school...no exceptions; no buy-outs; a desk job for those physically impaired. Look at it as two more years of FREE education. And for those wishing to enter college afterwards, any sports activity or proclivity not to be disclosed on applications...sort of like not allowing citizenship status on census reporting.

It's about time that education alone be taken seriously, including a requirement (for tax dollars) that the staff be comprised of an equal representation of opposing political ideologies (left/right), lest we see increasing numbers of AOC clones spiraling...God forbid!!

Agree with the Military aspect...Israel does it....

Far as Trump and his kids.........it's all public history....although seems like the Don himself's history has suddenly become hard to find...thinking his Daddy WAS much like those getting BUSTED now for bribing their kids way in...much like Obama's birth records are sketchy....

ps...it's way to late....only 7% of University professors are conservative......

AOC is just the tip of iceberg am afraid...

[davew]

Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire

The problem is they are not wealthy enough to donate a building or wing of a building directly to the institution. The U.S. attorney explicitly stated this type of bribery, er I mean donation, to gain admittance to the institution is not a crime.

The mistake is making the donations to a charity and taking the tax deduction for money used to gain admittance to the institution.

The guy in charge of the fraud had some sort of charity that parents were paying him through.

[RunForTheRoses]

[QUOTE=HalvOnHorseracing;2440650]This story is written up to sound sensational, but since Harvard opened in the 1600's the shit has been going on. Root out some freakin' terrorists instead of guys with a Harvard degree the Mommy and Daddy bought. Does anybody think George W. Bush worked his ass off to get into Yale?

https://vdare.com/articles/this-just...er-than-bush-s

[HalvOnHorseracing]

[quote=RunForTheRoses;2440820]

Originally Posted by HalvOnHorseracing

This story is written up to sound sensational, but since Harvard opened in the 1600's the shit has been going on. Root out some freakin' terrorists instead of guys with a Harvard degree the Mommy and Daddy bought. Does anybody think George W. Bush worked his ass off to get into Yale?

https://vdare.com/articles/this-just...er-than-bush-s

From United Press International

I think I'll stick with UPI on this one. Regardless, almost all the students at Ivy League schools had 1600 on their SAT's, except for the legacies (Bush) and the people with big money to grease the wheels.

"Linda Gottfredson, co-director of the University of Delaware-Johns Hopkins Project for the Study of Intelligence and Society, told United Press International: "I recently converted Bush's SAT score to an IQ using the high school norms available for his age cohort. Educational Testing Service happened to have done a study of representative high school students within a year or so of when he took the test. I derived an IQ of 125, which is the 95th percentile." In other words, only one out of 20 people would score higher.

Another IQ expert, Charles Murray of the American Enterprise Institute, the co-author of the bestseller "The Bell Curve," came up with a similar result when asked by UPI. Noting that everybody except high school dropouts takes the PSAT when they are sophomores, Murray calculated from PSAT scores that "I think you're safe in saying that Dubya's IQ, based on his SAT score, is in excess of 120, which puts him the top 10 percent of the distribution, but I wouldn't try to be more precise than that."

By way of comparison, Bush's 2000 opponent Al Gore scored 134 and 133 the two times he took an IQ test in high school, putting him just under the top 1 percent of the public. Not surprisingly, the former vice president's' SAT scores were also strong but not stratospheric: Verbal 625, Math 730, for a total of 1,355 out of a perfect score of 1,600."

[JustRalph]

[quote=RunForTheRoses;2440820]

Originally Posted by HalvOnHorseracing

This story is written up to sound sensational, but since Harvard opened in the 1600's the shit has been going on. Root out some freakin' terrorists instead of guys with a Harvard degree the Mommy and Daddy bought. Does anybody think George W. Bush worked his ass off to get into Yale?

https://vdare.com/articles/this-just...er-than-bush-s

He had a free pass as a legacy candidate. They didn’t have to bribe anybody

[Tom]

Gee, wonder what scores kids got who know the Earth's core is only thousands of degrees?

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

He had a free pass as a legacy candidate. They didn’t have to bribe anybody

Is there really any difference between rich people buying their kid's way into school ahead of the "regular" students and Bush getting to go to the head of the line to get into Yale? Or Malia Obama into Harvard or Chelsea Clinton into Stanford?

[barahona44]

Legacy counts in your favor but it's not automatic.The number I saw was around 30-40%(depending on the school),of legacies are admitted to the Ivy League schools whereas the admission rate for non legacies is 5-10%.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Clocker

Is there really any difference between rich people buying their kid's way into school ahead of the "regular" students and Bush getting to go to the head of the line to get into Yale? Or Malia Obama into Harvard or Chelsea Clinton into Stanford?

Nope.
The only acceptable standard is qualifications.
Legacy is BS.

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by barahona44

Legacy counts in your favor but it's not automatic.The number I saw was around 30-40%(depending on the school),of legacies are admitted to the Ivy League schools whereas the admission rate for non legacies is 5-10%.

Yeah, I’m sure that the Grandson of a U.S. Senator and the son of the current US Ambassador to the United Nations and former member of The House, get turned away all the time.

[reckless]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

Yeah, I’m sure that the Grandson of a U.S. Senator and the son of the current US Ambassador to the United Nations and former member of The House, get turned away all the time.

Why do you think most in Congress, but especially 'conservative' Republicans, are all in on affirmative action?

They benefited by it more than any other group or race -- let's be honest about it.

The brain power of the entire Kennedy clan, plus the Bushies, and to a smaller extent the Clinton and Obama siblings, wouldn't qualify any of them entrance into a backwater junior college if it wasn't for their luck in the gene-pool lottery.

[HalvOnHorseracing]

[quote=JustRalph;2440852]

Originally Posted by RunForTheRoses

He had a free pass as a legacy candidate. They didn’t have to bribe anybody

Donations, bribes..is there really a difference? I guarantee the Bush's were generous donors.

[sammy the sage]

Originally Posted by reckless

Why do you think most in Congress, but especially 'conservative' Republicans, are all in on affirmative action?

They benefited by it more than any other group or race -- let's be honest about it.

The brain power of the entire Kennedy clan, plus the Bushies, and to a smaller extent the Clinton and Obama siblings, wouldn't qualify any of them entrance into a backwater junior college if it wasn't for their luck in the gene-pool lottery.

So true...but you forgot a SIGNIFICANT person....rhymes with dump, rump, stump, mump, bump, ....

[MargieRose]

I think the real issue is being missed here. It's not about preferential treatment because of legacy or donations, which is usually not done on the sly. The schools are fully aware of the big donors and the 'prestige' kids, and they are accepted with open and legal arms.

The real issue is about the clandestine activities, the cheating and bribes benefiting only the individuals involved in the fraudulent scheme. Are these not crimes that rise to the level of shocking and require more attention than just a 'what's the difference' attitude?