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Old 04-14-2014, 03:27 PM   #1
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Food for thought. Stats on America

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Explains many many things that are bringing this country down........
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Old 04-14-2014, 04:20 PM   #2
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What will be required is a substantial shift in social mores–in how we view the institution and purposes of marriage, the duties of parenthood, our commitments to one another, and even human fulfillment itself–and there’s little evidence that is about to occur anytime soon.

Who would have ever thunk that we'd need a shift in "social mores"? So much for progressive social philosophy.

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Explains many many things that are bringing this country down........
Ironic that a link to another story on that page includes a picture of Hillary Clinton, the author of "It Takes a Village" (to raise a child). All it needs to complete the picture is MSNBC's Melissa Harris-Perry blathering about “We have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents", and you have the whole circle of cause and effect for the problem.
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COMMENTARY is America’s premier monthly magazine of opinion and a pivotal voice in American intellectual life. Since its inception in 1945, and increasingly after it emerged as the flagship of neoconservatism.



Definition of 'Confirmation Bias'

A psychological phenomenon that explains why people tend to seek out information that confirms their existing opinions and overlook or ignore information that refutes their beliefs. Confirmation bias occurs when people filter out potentially useful facts and opinions that don’t coincide with their preconceived notions. It affects perceptions and decision making in all aspects of our lives and can cause us to make less-than-optimal choices. Seeking out people and publications with different opinions than our own can help us overcome confirmation bias and make better-informed decisions.

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Old 04-15-2014, 12:29 PM   #5
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Ironic that a link to another story on that page includes a picture of Hillary Clinton, the author of "It Takes a Village" (to raise a child). All it needs to complete the picture is MSNBC's Melissa Harris-Perry blathering about “We have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents", and you have the whole circle of cause and effect for the problem.
That attitude is so anti everything I believe to be intrinsic to human beings I can't help but think it's a mental illness.

They would be the first ones to break out into hysteria if it was some religious "Village" that was raising their child but they have no comprehension whatsoever that there are millions of people that want absolutely nothing to do with their values and think they are the ones destroying society.
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THAT is called being out of touch with reality.
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That attitude is so anti everything I believe to be intrinsic to human beings I can't help but think it's a mental illness.

They would be the first ones to break out into hysteria if it was some religious "Village" that was raising their child but they have no comprehension whatsoever that there are millions of people that want absolutely nothing to do with their values and think they are the ones destroying society.
Liberalism is a belief system bordering on religion. This is just another manifestation of the core belief that people are generally incapable of making their own decisions. Liberals will not come right out and say that people are too stupid to run their own lives, but I have heard some say, as about ObamaCare, that people don't know what is good for them. You will find such statements on this forum.

Since people don't know what is good for them, government must make such decisions. Again, an unquestioned belief system unsupported by fact. They are secure in their belief that it takes a village, as long as they are the village elders and chiefs.
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COMMENTARY is America’s premier monthly magazine of opinion and a pivotal voice in American intellectual life. Since its inception in 1945, and increasingly after it emerged as the flagship of neoconservatism.
Sure, that invalidates the terrible terrible numbers wrought by the last forty years
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Old 04-15-2014, 03:12 PM   #9
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Liberalism is a belief system bordering on religion. This is just another manifestation of the core belief that people are generally incapable of making their own decisions. Liberals will not come right out and say that people are too stupid to run their own lives, but I have heard some say, as about ObamaCare, that people don't know what is good for them. You will find such statements on this forum.

Since people don't know what is good for them, government must make such decisions. Again, an unquestioned belief system unsupported by fact. They are secure in their belief that it takes a village, as long as they are the village elders and chiefs.
Blah blah blah. You can say the same thing about conservatives. How many times here has a conservative posted that most voters have no clue - that people are too stupid to vote in their best interests? Wasn't that THE excuse for the GOP losing the last presidential election?

Specifying that this is a liberal problem just shows how far from reality you've gone.

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You have to go to Common Dreams Crooks and Liars or Daily Kos to get the real scoop. They will straighten your attitude out..
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Most voters ARE to stupid to know what is good for them.
The difference is, the right is willing to let them suffer their ignorance, the left wants to spend all my money taking care of them.
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Most voters ARE to stupid to know what is good for them.
Surely Clocker will be along shortly to tell you that you are a typical conservative and that conservatism "is a belief system bordering on religion".
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Surely Clocker will be along shortly to tell you that you are a typical conservative and that conservatism "is a belief system bordering on religion".
Conservatism is a belief that the individual makes better decisions than the collective. It can hardly be called a "belief system" if everyone can hold different ideas.

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How many times here has a conservative posted that most voters have no clue - that people are too stupid to vote in their best interests?
Actually, the problem is that most voters are smart enough to vote in their best interests based on their knowledge of the situation. When the Democrats are buying votes with welfare programs paid for by the taxes of the minority, it is in the short term self interests of the majority to vote for that.
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Blah blah blah. You can say the same thing about conservatives. How many times here has a conservative posted that most voters have no clue - that people are too stupid to vote in their best interests? Wasn't that THE excuse for the GOP losing the last presidential election?
I don't have a problem with someone reaching the conclusion that most people are too busy with life, not educated enough, or not blessed with enough intelligence to understand all the issues or what's in their own best interests. I have a problem with people that reach that conclusion and then think that makes it OK for them to dictate to everyone else.

Any time you are dictating to others, you are guaranteeing conflict. IMO, the idea should be to encourage the things that actually get good results, but live and let live.
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Liberalism is a belief system bordering on religion. This is just another manifestation of the core belief that people are generally incapable of making their own decisions. Liberals will not come right out and say that people are too stupid to run their own lives, but I have heard some say, as about ObamaCare, that people don't know what is good for them. You will find such statements on this forum.

Since people don't know what is good for them, government must make such decisions. Again, an unquestioned belief system unsupported by fact. They are secure in their belief that it takes a village, as long as they are the village elders and chiefs.
I think Ayn Rand says it best “The man who speaks to you of sacrifice, speaks of slaves and masters, intends to be the master.”
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