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Old 11-07-2010, 09:24 AM   #1
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Exclamation The Unkindness of Strangers

We had $60 bleacher seats yesterday for Zenyatta's race. My husband figured this "higher class of people" would be forgiving, realize we were all there for the same reason, and let people up to the fence to take a picture of Z. And that's what I wanted more than anything, a semi-decent picture with my lame camera, but no, folks weren't understanding - more specifically, WOMENfolk. For some reason, kindness, understanding and common sense had disappeared and standing at the fence became synonymous with bleacher seats. They couldn't get any Churchill staff to agree with them, but it didn't matter. I guess I should have stood on the empty bleacher (on their ACTUAL seats), but I wasn't the one trying to start a fight.

I understand why the middle class has this attitude, but it doesn't excuse it. The rail, or the fence (whatever you want to call it) is public access, first come first serve, you cannot reserve it. Wanting people to act out of love instead of fear is not gonna happen at a racetrack, I guess. I'll never understand what I was taking away from these women....there was plenty of room for all of us. And I can't understand the kind of person who wants to take joy away from someone else.
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Old 11-07-2010, 09:31 AM   #2
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We had $60 bleacher seats yesterday for Zenyatta's race. My husband figured this "higher class of people" would be forgiving, realize we were all there for the same reason, and let people up to the fence to take a picture of Z. And that's what I wanted more than anything, a semi-decent picture with my lame camera, but no, folks weren't understanding - more specifically, WOMENfolk. For some reason, kindness, understanding and common sense had disappeared and standing at the fence became synonymous with bleacher seats. They couldn't get any Churchill staff to agree with them, but it didn't matter. I guess I should have stood on the empty bleacher (on their ACTUAL seats), but I wasn't the one trying to start a fight.

I understand why the middle class has this attitude, but it doesn't excuse it. The rail, or the fence (whatever you want to call it) is public access, first come first serve, you cannot reserve it. Wanting people to act out of love instead of fear is not gonna happen at a racetrack, I guess. I'll never understand what I was taking away from these women....there was plenty of room for all of us. And I can't understand the kind of person who wants to take joy away from someone else.
I notice some of the very people you are describing acting the same way on the highways. Dog eat dog.
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Old 11-07-2010, 09:59 AM   #3
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We had $60 bleacher seats yesterday for Zenyatta's race. My husband figured this "higher class of people" would be forgiving, realize we were all there for the same reason, and let people up to the fence to take a picture of Z. And that's what I wanted more than anything, a semi-decent picture with my lame camera, but no, folks weren't understanding - more specifically, WOMENfolk. For some reason, kindness, understanding and common sense had disappeared and standing at the fence became synonymous with bleacher seats. They couldn't get any Churchill staff to agree with them, but it didn't matter. I guess I should have stood on the empty bleacher (on their ACTUAL seats), but I wasn't the one trying to start a fight.

I understand why the middle class has this attitude, but it doesn't excuse it. The rail, or the fence (whatever you want to call it) is public access, first come first serve, you cannot reserve it. Wanting people to act out of love instead of fear is not gonna happen at a racetrack, I guess. I'll never understand what I was taking away from these women....there was plenty of room for all of us. And I can't understand the kind of person who wants to take joy away from someone else.
You needed to spend more money for better seats if you wanted pictures. Don't blame other people for this.
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Old 11-07-2010, 10:09 AM   #4
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You needed to spend more money for better seats if you wanted pictures. Don't blame other people for this.
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Old 11-07-2010, 01:00 PM   #7
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Most people are pretty generous, at least that has been my experience. Sounds like you unfortunately got stuck in a small group that weren't as gracious as you, and that sucks.

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We had $60 bleacher seats yesterday for Zenyatta's race. My husband figured this "higher class of people" would be forgiving
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Old 11-07-2010, 01:04 PM   #8
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And that's what I wanted more than anything, a semi-decent picture with my lame camera, but no, folks weren't understanding - more specifically, WOMENfolk..

Maybe you could have asked someone ahead of you to take a photo with your camera for you?? (Of course the small risk that the camera would never be seen again is there too.)
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Old 11-07-2010, 01:08 PM   #9
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NJDevil, next time travel a little further South, maybe to Hot Springs, Arkansas', Oaklawn Park. One can have great seats . . . and we did. Still, I wanted to go to the rail to see Zenyatta in the post parade and take photos of her Apple Blossom. I wasn't disappointed at all. The crowd, both male and female, were as gracious, as excited, and friendly as could be. And the apron, I'm sure just as crowded.

There's kindness everywhere; there's the alternative as well. Ignore those.
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Old 11-07-2010, 01:11 PM   #10
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I guess I don't understand. Who were these rude women? Ones that had $200 seats? Why couldn't you just push your way up if the public has free access to the rail? I've never been to a large racetrack on a big day so I don't understand how this all works.

I guess that's just the way the world works; people can be very rude. I don't have money for a expensive seats and a trip to Kentucky, so I just watch the big races at home. I get a much better view. I'd rather not be around people that behave like that anyway.
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Maybe i misunderstood what the poster was complaining about. My apologies.
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Old 11-08-2010, 08:05 AM   #12
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No, the rude women were in the $60/seat section also. I did stand at the fence, they just bitched about it, claiming I was in someone's seat. Even though there was no bleacher behind me. Typical selfish, greedy Americans.
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Old 11-08-2010, 08:30 AM   #14
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NJDevil, next time travel a little further South, maybe to Hot Springs, Arkansas', Oaklawn Park. One can have great seats . . . and we did. Still, I wanted to go to the rail to see Zenyatta in the post parade and take photos of her Apple Blossom. I wasn't disappointed at all. The crowd, both male and female, were as gracious, as excited, and friendly as could be. And the apron, I'm sure just as crowded.

There's kindness everywhere; there's the alternative as well. Ignore those.
the people in arkansas are nice like you. its a great fun place to be oaklawn, i am sure it hasn't changed to much since i was there in the early 80's.
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Old 11-08-2010, 10:01 AM   #15
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No, the rude women were in the $60/seat section also. I did stand at the fence, they just bitched about it, claiming I was in someone's seat. Even though there was no bleacher behind me. Typical selfish, greedy Americans.
Taking a shot at Americans? Why bring millions of Americans into this?
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