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Old 09-13-2018, 10:32 PM   #31
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Wow is this idiotic.
I took it as a joke.......

I think it’s a line from a song........not sure though
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Old 09-14-2018, 05:22 AM   #32
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Most backsides are safe havens for non-citizens. They're filled with people sleeping in shacks and trailers. Most are drunk on Booze or God. You run into backside chapels on the regular. About 70% drunk on Booze, another 30 on God.

Circumstances drive men to God more often than Virtue. If someone is hungry enough, they will cut you up, cook and eat you. Poor people Cheating is on the tip of their tongue and in their front pocket.
You left out the adjective "hard working" poor people.


How about "backsides are safe havens for dishonest employers who hire illegals" to cut corners, then repay backside workers with shacks and unsafe living conditions in return for their hard work.


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There has been no hot water in the Aqueduct jockey room for a year, so imagine what's going on elsewhere.
That's a disgrace, of course.

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Old 09-14-2018, 07:15 AM   #33
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This is one crazy (crazy as in incredibly stupid) thread.
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Old 09-14-2018, 10:55 AM   #34
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Jockeys who ride unplaced horses should get 2% of what the owner earns, in addition to the "losing" fee, whatever it is - and the purse distribution should be staggered based on the actual finish: In a 12-horse field, for example, the purse might be divided 60% to 1st, 18% to 2nd, 10% to 3rd and 4% to 4th - but instead of 1% each for 5th through 12th, it could be 1.8% to 5th, 1.4% to 6th, 1.2% to 7th, 1% to 8th, .8% to 9th, .7% to 10th, .6% to 11th and .5% to 12th. In a race with a $50,000 purse, this would mean $30,000 to the owner of the winner, with $9,000 to second, $5,000 to third, $2,000 to 4th, $900 to 5th, $700 to 6th, $600 to 7th, $500 to 8th, $400 to 9th, $350 to 10th, $300 to 11th and $250 to 12th. Assuming a "losing mount" fee of $100, this would yield total jockey fees of $3,000 to the winning jockey (10% of the win purse), $450 to 2nd (5% of the second purse), $250 to 3rd (5% of the third purse), then $140 to 4th ($100 plus 2% of the fourth purse), $118 to 5th, $114 to 6th, $112 to 7th, $110 to 8th, $108 to 9th, $107 to 10th, $106 to 11th, and $105 to 12th. Jockeys who ride horses that did not finish, or were disqualified for fouling a horse that did not finish, receive the base losing jockey mount fee only.
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Go to any major track and check out the stalls Reserved for Jockeys.
Some are driving in cars that I can only dream of.
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Go to any major track and check out the stalls Reserved for Jockeys.
Some are driving in cars that I can only dream of.
There's a reason for that. They have very unique skills---you or I could not do what they do, nor could 99.9% of the population.

It's the same with any professional athlete. Whether you think it's unfair, or they're spoiled, or society's priorities are messed up, they have unique size, skills, and talents to the participants in industries that generate BILLIONS of dollars. They may not "deserve" that much money for playing a kids' game, but there's a reason why they get paid what they do.

Jockey are much the same---plus they risk their lives each time they go out on the track, which an NBA or MLB player (except in extremely rare cases) does not.
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Old 09-14-2018, 05:46 PM   #37
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Go to any major track and check out the stalls Reserved for Jockeys.
Some are driving in cars that I can only dream of.
Some "stalls" in the toilet are also reserved....
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Jockeys who ride unplaced horses should get 2% of what the owner earns, in addition to the "losing" fee, whatever it is - and the purse distribution should be staggered based on the actual finish: In a 12-horse field, for example, the purse might be divided 60% to 1st, 18% to 2nd, 10% to 3rd and 4% to 4th - but instead of 1% each for 5th through 12th, it could be 1.8% to 5th, 1.4% to 6th, 1.2% to 7th, 1% to 8th, .8% to 9th, .7% to 10th, .6% to 11th and .5% to 12th. In a race with a $50,000 purse, this would mean $30,000 to the owner of the winner, with $9,000 to second, $5,000 to third, $2,000 to 4th, $900 to 5th, $700 to 6th, $600 to 7th, $500 to 8th, $400 to 9th, $350 to 10th, $300 to 11th and $250 to 12th. Assuming a "losing mount" fee of $100, this would yield total jockey fees of $3,000 to the winning jockey (10% of the win purse), $450 to 2nd (5% of the second purse), $250 to 3rd (5% of the third purse), then $140 to 4th ($100 plus 2% of the fourth purse), $118 to 5th, $114 to 6th, $112 to 7th, $110 to 8th, $108 to 9th, $107 to 10th, $106 to 11th, and $105 to 12th. Jockeys who ride horses that did not finish, or were disqualified for fouling a horse that did not finish, receive the base losing jockey mount fee only.
When I first came around the losing jock mount was $30.00.

If you asked a jock how he did in a race. If he finished far back he'd angrily retort.

"I got hot and dirty for thirty"
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When I first came around the losing jock mount was $30.00.

If you asked a jock how he did in a race. If he finished far back he'd angrily retort.

"I got hot and dirty for thirty"

When I first became aware of such things in the mid-'70s, the losing mount was $35 for all purses of $5,000 and up.

But what I'm proposing keeps everybody honest - the higher the horse finishes, the more money all involved receive.

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When I first became aware of such things in the mid-'70s, the losing mount was $35 for all purses of $5,000 and up.

But what I'm proposing keeps everybody honest - the higher the horse finishes, the more money all involved receive.
That $13 extra dollars to finish 5th is a huge incentive?
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That $13 extra dollars to finish 5th is a huge incentive?

As Sy Syms said, quick nickels are better than slow dollars - and those $13 and even $8 add up over a week, a month, a year.
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