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Old 08-06-2012, 02:07 PM   #91
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its just a television show!

if a guy knew anything, do you really think he would be on the airwaves showing off his stuff?

he'd be at the windows pounding away!
Really? What if he only lost 3-5% on his own personal bets? Would you still consider that he didn't know anything?

Being a 3-5% loser is heads and tails above probably 90+% of the people out there who play this game.

Would he qualify then to be on television and also know something?

He wouldn't be good enough to make a living solely though wagering, but he'd certainly be good enough to be on television hosting a race show.

And why can't he do both? What if he is a 2-5% winner? Why wouldn't he want to both be able to wager and be on television? Whose to say both aren't very doable? I doubt they dissuade people from betting while working as a TV host at TVG...
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Old 08-06-2012, 02:13 PM   #92
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And why can't he do both? What if he is a 2-5% winner? Why wouldn't he want to both be able to wager and be on television? Whose to say both aren't very doable? I doubt they dissuade people from betting while working as a TV host at TVG...
PA is right, most of them do both.

At the end of the day at Keeneland, all of the TVG personalities come upstairs and bet heavily on CA. I've seen several cash tickets that they gave out on air as well. While I'm sure they don't bet everything they give out, it does happen at times.
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Old 08-06-2012, 02:14 PM   #93
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In my opinion...there is no better gig than to get paid to talk about something that you feel passionate about.

Even if you are a winning bettor...there is nothing wrong with having a regular paycheck coming in...
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Old 08-06-2012, 02:41 PM   #94
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Really? What if he only lost 3-5% on his own personal bets? Would you still consider that he didn't know anything?

Being a 3-5% loser is heads and tails above probably 90+% of the people out there who play this game.

Would he qualify then to be on television and also know something?

He wouldn't be good enough to make a living solely though wagering, but he'd certainly be good enough to be on television hosting a race show.

And why can't he do both? What if he is a 2-5% winner? Why wouldn't he want to both be able to wager and be on television? Whose to say both aren't very doable? I doubt they dissuade people from betting while working as a TV host at TVG...
if that guy only lost 10% of what he bet i would gladly donate $500 for the next pace advantage contest instead of the $50 i usually give.
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Old 08-06-2012, 02:49 PM   #95
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In my opinion...there is no better gig than to get paid to talk about something that you feel passionate about.

Even if you are a winning bettor...there is nothing wrong with having a regular paycheck coming in...

You are correct sir.
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Old 08-06-2012, 03:49 PM   #96
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its just a television show!

if a guy knew anything, do you really think he would be on the airwaves showing off his stuff?

he'd be at the windows pounding away!
So basically you are thinking that none of the TVG/HRTV etc presenters consistently make money betting since if they did they would be "pounding away at the windows" and not "showing off their stuff on the airwaves" ??
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Old 08-06-2012, 04:02 PM   #97
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So basically you are thinking that none of the TVG/HRTV etc presenters consistently make money betting since if they did they would be "pounding away at the windows" and not "showing off their stuff on the airwaves" ??
i can't rate HRTV because i never watch that station. i am have no idea if anyone wins or loses on TVG either. i think it is very unlikely that R. Perloff can win based on the fact that he "buys" lots of races in various sequences.

if you can prove me wrong, i will gladly send the house here $500 for the next contest to give away to all the better handicappers here that can win that contest and i will eat plenty of crow like i deserve to.
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Old 08-06-2012, 04:12 PM   #98
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if that guy only lost 10% of what he bet i would gladly donate $500 for the next pace advantage contest instead of the $50 i usually give.
Why are you playing a game you can't possibly win? You really have no clue how he does personally, or what he's REQUIRED to give out on air...
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i can't rate HRTV because i never watch that station. i am have no idea if anyone wins or loses on TVG either. i think it is very unlikely that R. Perloff can win based on the fact that he "buys" lots of races in various sequences.

if you can prove me wrong, i will gladly send the house here $500 for the next contest to give away to all the better handicappers here that can win that contest and i will eat plenty of crow like i deserve to.
I have no idea what his ROI is, but he doesn't buy a lot of races.
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Why are you playing a game you can't possibly win? You really have no clue how he does personally, or what he's REQUIRED to give out on air...
YOU ARE GOOD!
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Old 08-06-2012, 04:43 PM   #101
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Most of the TVG personalities simply dont have the time to put into it to be as successful as we perceive them to be. They have regular full time jobs, being on TV, and that takes up quite a bit of time. That's my guess. But it's hard to really know what's up Perloff. He can't really expect us to take those 4 x 5 $2 Doubles serious can he?

I'm pretty sure Perloff has hinted more than a few times that he considers the actual betting a liesurely "game" and encourages a lot of the viewers to consider it the same, thats the point I wanted to share.

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Old 08-07-2012, 06:00 PM   #102
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I have no idea what his ROI is, but he doesn't buy a lot of races.
i just caught him at PID this afternoon. he played 2 horses in the first race that produced a $4.60 winner, and then 5 horses in the second event that produced a $3.60 winner, and the daily double paid $12.60. but i shouldn't complain, its at least a cash and he didn't buy either race.
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i just caught him at PID this afternoon. he played 2 horses in the first race that produced a $4.60 winner, and then 5 horses in the second event that produced a $3.60 winner, and the daily double paid $12.60. but i shouldn't complain, its at least a cash and he didn't buy either race.
I did see him use the all at Fairmount today into a P3 pool. It was a terrible bet.
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Old 08-07-2012, 06:35 PM   #104
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I have no idea what his ROI is, but he doesn't buy a lot of races.
He loves pick 3s for small $6-$12. An occasional P4 for a bit more. Not a big player. Does it for leisure like he says.
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Old 08-10-2012, 01:57 PM   #105
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