"I can't breathe" revisted

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by FantasticDan

Uh.. can you be more specific

Think about both sides attorneys

How can they play this?

Goes to Floyd’s physical condition including mental.

Defense will say it contributed to his death. Maybe even press that Covid combined with drugs in his system are “the cause” of death.

Several expert witnesses just got a pay day.

Btw, what part of the body is attacked by the Covid virus?

Throat, esophagus and respiratory system.........

When the real predominant cause of death is asphyxiation......maybe Covid weakened his system?

I can hear these and more ideas being thrown around.

[PaceAdvantage]

If you think the riots are bad now, imagine if the defense somehow manages to win its case...

[Stevecsd2]

Originally Posted by delayjf

A lot of bad cops are created by the environment that they work in day in and day out. Patrolling in high crime areas like Watts or East St Louis, creates a constant state of animosity and anger between the citizens and the crime elements (gangs). Over time it will affect any police officer's mentality. Some crack, and you see things like what happened in Minn.

My grandfather was an Long Beach, CA, policeman & my father a deputy sheriff. You are very right about the psychological toll it takes. This has been going on for decades with cops getting burned out and jaded. Just read any Joseph Wambaugh book about LA cops. Wambaugh was a 14 year member of the LAPD.


This is not to excuse Chauvin or any other cop who acts outside the law. One of the worst was the cop in North or South Carolina who shot an unarmed black man who was running away.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

Think about both sides attorneys

How can they play this?

Goes to Floyd’s physical condition including mental.

Defense will say it contributed to his death. Maybe even press that Covid combined with drugs in his system are “the cause” of death.

Several expert witnesses just got a pay day.

Btw, what part of the body is attacked by the Covid virus?

Throat, esophagus and respiratory system.........

When the real predominant cause of death is asphyxiation......maybe Covid weakened his system?

I can hear these and more ideas being thrown around.

But Floyd was only 46 years old...and I've seen it reported on Paceadvantage.com that such an age group has nothing to worry about from the coronavirus.

[jay68802]

Originally Posted by FantasticDan

Uh.. can you be more specific

I am pretty sure he is talking about the defunding of the LA police department.

Seems logical to me.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

But Floyd was only 46 years old...and I've seen it reported on Paceadvantage.com that such an age group has nothing to worry about from the coronavirus.

It was probably the fentanyl and meth as opposed to COVID.

I'm going with that...if you're on that stuff and someone is pressing on your neck for 8 min, you're probably ****ed.

[lamboguy]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

Think about both sides attorneys

How can they play this?

Goes to Floyd’s physical condition including mental.

Defense will say it contributed to his death. Maybe even press that Covid combined with drugs in his system are “the cause” of death.

Several expert witnesses just got a pay day.

Btw, what part of the body is attacked by the Covid virus?

Throat, esophagus and respiratory system.........

When the real predominant cause of death is asphyxiation......maybe Covid weakened his system?

I can hear these and more ideas being thrown around.

this case will be won or lost during the jury selection process. there is so much coverage of this case that it will be very hard to find impartial jurors. the ones that are impartial will be a lot easier to portray a doubt of guilt than the ones that have already made up their minds.

this is what happened in the OJ Simpson trial and Casey Anthony in Florida. 99 9/10% thought those 2 were dead bang guilty, yet they walked.

due to public rage, these police officers might have been overcharged to start out with as well.

[ElKabong]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

https://abcnews.go.com/US/george-flo...ry?id=71038665

Huge deal

From now on I can honestly refer to Floyd as "the victim who had C19 and was on illegal drugs at time of his death"

Shouldn't have been killed by the cop
Floyd shouldn't take in drugs either

[ElKabong]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

But Floyd was only 46 years old...and I've seen it reported on Paceadvantage.com that such an age group has nothing to worry about from the coronavirus.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...ry-sand-video/

The mayor of LA said he'd have anyone on dry sand on the beach arrested. Not to be outdone on scaring you on how dangerous this virus is, I give you the mayor of NYC

https://www.pacificpundit.com/2020/0...swim-in-water/


“Anyone tries to get in the water, they’ll be taken right out of the water,” De Blasio said. -SNIP

In other words.... 'The virus is dangerous, you sheep!' Stay inside. At least that was the message until protests and riots began

[davew]

I love De Blasio's NY police arresting 600 people, they go to jail, they are released without bail, and repeat again the next night....

[hcap]

Originally Posted by ElKabong

How many blacks were murdered by other blacks in the past ten years? Please show us that staggering figure, h4c. Once we have that figure, then an intelligent discussion can begin.

Failing those figures, you're just showing emotion. No solution or review of facts.

Without factoring in inner city violence, poverty and generally a worse educational background than whites, not to mention the first sin of the U.S., slavery, and slavery's 200 year legacy, you seem to be implying a racist explanation.

What is going on now is another story that needs telling.

https://www.statista.com/chart/21872...ack-americans/

[davew]

police officers more likely to get shot


https://nypost.com/2019/01/08/the-de...atter-ignores/


during last week over a dozen officers shot and hundreds injured by peaceful protestors....

[hcap]

Originally Posted by davew

police officers more likely to get shot


https://nypost.com/2019/01/08/the-de...atter-ignores/


during last week over a dozen officers shot and hundreds injured by peaceful protestors....

So your premise is it is a revenge thing that got Floyd killed, and that makes it ok?

[davew]

Originally Posted by hcap

So your premise is it is a revenge thing that got Floyd killed, and that makes it ok?

no premise, just you and your party are hypocrites

[delayjf]

from the article:

As for interracial violence generally, blacks disproportionately commit it. Between 2012 and 2015, there were 631,830 violent interracial victimizations, excluding homicide, between blacks and whites, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics.

Blacks, who make up 13 percent of the US population, committed 85.5 percent of those victimizations, or 540,360 felonious assaults on whites, while whites, 61 percent of the population, committed 14.4 percent, or 91,470 felonious assaults on blacks.

Regarding threats to blacks from the police: A police officer is 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male is to be killed by a police officer.

Hard to claim systemic racism in view of the above numbers.