i am sick of Tacitus

[Tom]

Trakus pace of race:

24.84 48.36 1:10.81 1:35.11 1:59.64

[classhandicapper]

The time looked fairly quick, but we'll have to see what the figure was.

Mr Buff wanted nothing to do with 10F against better quality horses without the lead and/or a bias.

Sir Winston never lifted a hoof.

A longshot like Parsimony hung around with Moretti at the finish.

Not a stellar Grade 2, but he did what he was supposed to do in a field like this at even money.

[Robert Fischer]

Tacitus ran his race. Again. A vocal minority was badly fooled.

[GMB@BP]

Originally Posted by Robert Fischer

Tacitus ran his race. Again. A vocal minority was badly fooled.

who didnt think this was going to be the spot spot for him in a long while?

He definitely ran his A race so that is nice to see.

[theotherside]

Could he have beat a weaker grade 2 field?

[jay68802]

Originally Posted by theotherside

Could he have beat a weaker grade 2 field?

Yes, he could. Can he beat G 1 competition is the question.

[dilanesp]

I always said he needed a class drop. He got one, and responded with his best race in a long time.

[the little guy]

Originally Posted by dilanesp

I always said he needed a class drop. He got one, and responded with his best race in a long time.

He ran in the exact same class that he ran in last time.

Your record remains intact.

[burnsy]

Originally Posted by jay68802

Yes, he could. Can he beat G 1 competition is the question.

That is the question. But he probably can given the right field and set up. This horse and McKinzie are similar IMO. They are capable of winning Grade 1’s but when the best of the best show up both horses have proven that water is deep for them. In all reality the Met Mile was best field yesterday. These are good horses but people like me make fun of them because of short prices they draw in fields that they can’t usually beat. I pretty much thought he had to beat that field yesterday or there is a problem . But you can’t call either of these horses “over achievers” they’ve both lost big races multiple times while being over bet. McKenzie was a horrible price yesterday. You knew he might get out run..... again. That’s how you make money , eliminating horses like this when they reach their class ceiling. I get a laugh out of it but that’s the point of betting .

[classhandicapper]

Originally Posted by the little guy

He ran in the exact same class that he ran in last time.

Your record remains intact.

You are a very smart guy. You know this race was nowhere near the quality of the Oaklawn race even with the same class label.

The 100 Beyer figure makes some sense and fits with the rest of the day, but as the stand alone 10F race maybe you can argue it was a little faster. CJ has it a little faster, but I think he's had him a bit faster all along.

Either way, with Sir Winston not lifting a hoof, Mr Buff throwing in the towel at 10F against open company, and Parsimony in a battle with Moretti for the place (suggesting Moretti's last was indeed a bias aided win), this was a glorified allowance race.

He looked great, but he beat a bad Grade 2 field.

Even I thought there was a good chance he'd finally break out from the 100 Beyer range. But if that 100 is legit, he still hasn't moved forward from the spring of last year like you'd expect (given relative trips).

[burnsy]

I agree with Class. Until he beats a Maximum Security, Code Of Honor, Toms D’Etat or Vekoma you can’t take a short price . In that kind of race

[dilanesp]

Originally Posted by the little guy

He ran in the exact same class that he ran in last time.

Your record remains intact.

Andy, you are too good a handicapper to believe this. In this race he beat Moretti and Parsimony.

Please explain to the board how they are the same caliber of horse as Tacitus faced in earlier races.

This "your record is intact" at this point is a creepy obsession which is based on lies and gaslighting, and it needs to stop, now.

[Robert Fischer]

"sucker horse"? "finds a way to lose races"? - this is the false narrative


If you are defending that he isn't an all-time great, - you're missing the joke

[dilanesp]

Originally Posted by Robert Fischer

"sucker horse"? "finds a way to lose races"? - this is the false narrative


If you are defending that he isn't an all-time great, - you're missing the joke

This was what I said on the first page of this thread:

Originally Posted by dilanesp

Tacitus always has an excuse.

And at some point, horses that always have an excuse need to be treated as chronic losers and dropped in class.

He was finding ways to lose races at the class level he was at, while a devoted fanbase kept on making excuses for him. So they dropped him into an easier spot, and he took care of business. I don't see how I was wrong about any of this.

[castaway01]

I just got a private message from Tacitus and he's sick of all of you too.