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11-23-2018, 04:21 PM
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Looks like 3 horse race, probably a replay of the disappointing Comely stakes.
Bravazo not much of a horse against a very bad 3yo crop - you can have him. If he wins, I lose.
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11-23-2018, 05:12 PM
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is the horse to beat, but could be an underlay. Obvious type who ran well in the Breeders Cup. I don't want to bet or pick the . He could win as an underlay. He could also be that dominant that he's so much the best in here that he'll be a fair price. I'll take the contrarian stance.
I liked 's Woodward. He's the logical 2nd-choice.
the was impressive 2-back. He could be hot now, and it wouldn't be obvious to the public, given his weak class.
the is kind of in that same boat, but we have seen him not be fast enough in several opportunities. As a long-shot I actually like that he was too sluggish in the somewhat slow-paced Fayette, and should be trained up to sharpen here.
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11-23-2018, 05:18 PM
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11-23-2018, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Looks like 3 horse race, probably a replay of the disappointing Comely stakes.
Bravazo not much of a horse against a very bad 3yo crop - you can have him. If he wins, I lose.
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Boxing the three
may well come home on the rail and win it all. - bet at 5-1 or better
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11-23-2018, 06:00 PM
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Dang! Bravaso!
I will NEVER bet a loser like this horse at any odds against anything that has ever shown anything.
I would rather lose than bet garbage like him.
Once again, winning Gr1 stake is not much of an accomplishment anymore. Remind me to ignore the Cigar Mile next week.
Give me them beaten claimers down south.
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11-23-2018, 06:01 PM
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I'm not at the the track, but #3 will win.
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11-23-2018, 06:13 PM
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Showed nothing.
Made a mild move on the turn and watched butts down the stretch.
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11-23-2018, 10:50 PM
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Red board here but I would never throw Bravazo out of a tri. Tom your comments on this horse are just plain wrong. A hard knocking horse for the great D. Wayne Lukas.
I don't give a crap how "good" anyone thinks this years 3 year old crop is... if you've really watched Bravazo race he is a horse with a ton of heart.
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11-24-2018, 08:33 AM
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Red board here but I would never throw Bravazo out of a tri. Tom your comments on this horse are just plain wrong. A hard knocking horse for the great D. Wayne Lukas.
I don't give a crap how "good" anyone thinks this years 3 year old crop is... if you've really watched Bravazo race he is a horse with a ton of heart.
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I agree. Bravazo tries hard so consistently that he's the figure makers dream.
I bet cj loves him.
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11-24-2018, 09:51 AM
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Always trying = always losing
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11-25-2018, 12:36 PM
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Always trying = always losing
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So he's not good enough to win in G1. He is a good consistent horse who always runs well in top company. That makes him better than 99% of all horses running. If you don't like him don't bet him but that does not make him "garbage".
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11-25-2018, 01:10 PM
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I didn't play the Clark, but I bet or used Bravazo a couple of times this year. He reminds me of the type of horse that's going to run well without winning too often for my taste, but of course that's partly because he didn't run as well as I expected when I bet him. Maybe once he finds a field or trip that gets him home first he'll put it all togther.
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11-25-2018, 01:16 PM
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Showed nothing.
Made a mild move on the turn and watched butts down the stretch.
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"showed nothing"? If you bothered to watch the race you will see that he lost several lengths to the winner with his wide move on the turn, which he almost caught anyway. He really ran the best race.
What the heck do you have against this horse? Did you lose money betting him or do just hate all horses that lose big races despite trying their best? Try sparing your venom for horses that don't even try.
Or better yet, as you spout when you have nothing positive to say -
SHUT UP AND BET, or don't bet - who cares.
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11-25-2018, 04:37 PM
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READ THE POST HERE....you would know I was talking about the 3 horse after Fred's post.
What I have against the other horse is MY business- if YOU don't like it, SHUT UP and put me on ignore. I don't post here to please you or get your approval.
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11-26-2018, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom
READ THE POST HERE....you would know I was talking about the 3 horse after Fred's post.
What I have against the other horse is MY business- if YOU don't like it, SHUT UP and put me on ignore. I don't post here to please you or get your approval.
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When you respond to a post use quote so people know what the hell you're talking about. I don't post for your approval either and when you degrade a horse unfairly I will defend him. If you don't like it you can just SHUT THE HELL UP and put me on ignore too.
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