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07-10-2020, 04:41 PM
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There sheer amount of "I felt fine, never knew I was sick" within these athletic bubbles is both disheartening and encouraging at the same time.
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07-11-2020, 01:06 AM
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Victor Ezpinosa tested positive. Sounds like an outbreak that likely generated from Los Alimitos as all three riders who are positive were there on Sunday.
Del Mar has many more new positives and they may have to shut down for a while.
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07-11-2020, 09:49 AM
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This is the issue that was raised in the Saratoga thread. It's not like these tracks are bubbles with very little entrance or exit. Trainers, jockeys, grooms etc.. are moving around the country with their horses. You can test often, catch these things fairly quickly, and quarantine. So hopefully it doesn't get out hand, but there's going to be more of this, especially if people are traveling to the latest hot spots and then back to their home base or originating from a hot spot.
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07-11-2020, 10:18 AM
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So true . The travel is its (Virus) transportation. It can’t move on it’s own...... it’s a virus, it moves with people. Up here, Warren county was down to 0 to one case a day, recently 3 different flights came in from Florida. They were contaminated. All of the sudden people on that flight brought a bunch of positives to that county. The fact that travel is nothing new these days just exasperates the situation. Saratoga can’t open, it’s a Mecca, there are visitors from every corner of the country. I agree, even shut down there is a good possibility problems can flair up. It’s being pretty much proven if you get on a plane with sick people or are coming from a hot spot ...... it spreads. This happened 3 times In the last two weeks fights from Fla to Albany. And Albany airport isn’t exactly a big airport. Some of these fools that thought they were immune in some way. Are paying the price now. Arizona just had to order the refrigerated trucks cause the morgues are 97% full. Math and science...... it’s a mother****er when you don’t respect it
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07-11-2020, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by burnsy
Are paying the price now. Arizona just had to order the refrigerated trucks cause the morgues are 97% full.
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This was a bullshit line the uber left mayor of phoenix put out there.
They company who runs the morgues in general needs more space. There is millions of people in phoenix and the issue arises all the time to have the trucks on back up as the vast vast amount of deaths have nothing to do with covid.
While deaths are up from covid they are still a very small percentage of deaths in az.
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07-11-2020, 12:54 PM
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I don't know the details of what's going on in Arizona, but this pandemic is obviously at the stage where data is being manipulated and spun for political purposes. To me, that's the level that disqualifies you from being newsworthy or in office. People are entitled to be misinformed or not understand complex data, but when you are bullshitting about something like this for political purposes I have no use for you. And right now the BS is widespread.
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Last edited by classhandicapper; 07-11-2020 at 12:55 PM.
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07-11-2020, 01:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by classhandicapper
I don't know the details of what's going on in Arizona, but this pandemic is obviously at the stage where data is being manipulated and spun for political purposes. To me, that's the level that disqualifies you from being newsworthy or in office. People are entitled to be misinformed or not understand complex data, but when you are bullshitting about something like this for political purposes I have no use for you. And right now the BS is widespread.
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100% agree.
I knew from the beginning, politics would muddy the water. But, because of an election year, it's at a fever pitch.
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07-12-2020, 08:23 PM
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everyone who was in that los al jock room last weekend should have been extra careful, and probably should not have traveled. I would imagine that whole Keeneland jocks room may be exposed.
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07-12-2020, 08:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMB@BP
This was a bullshit line the uber left mayor of phoenix put out there.
They company who runs the morgues in general needs more space. There is millions of people in phoenix and the issue arises all the time to have the trucks on back up as the vast vast amount of deaths have nothing to do with covid.
While deaths are up from covid they are still a very small percentage of deaths in az.
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Not sure what leads you to believe all this, but Covid-19 is now the leading cause of death in AZ, as it is in TX and FL, and as it was in NY,NJ,MA,RI, and CT when it was rampaging through those states a few months back. The first chart tracks the recent explosion of cases, hospitalizations, and deaths from Covid-19 -- especially in the last week, it's dramatic. The second chart is of death totals for AZ through 2018. If we use only that last year as an example, the state had ca. 59k total deaths, ca. 162 per day. In an average year the two leading causes of death are cancer and heart disease, which account for ca. 40% of all deaths. If we apply this to AZ, this translates into ca. 65 deaths from those two diseases combined, on an average day. Yet within the past week, Covid-19 has been killing people in the state to the tune of 80-100 people a day -- more than those two diseases combined. And since its growth continues to be exponential, the death rate from Covid-19 will continue to soar.
https://covidtracking.com/data/state/arizona
https://pub.azdhs.gov/health-stats/r...18/pdf/5e1.pdf
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07-12-2020, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by lansdale
Not sure what leads you to believe all this, but Covid-19 is now the leading cause of death in AZ, as it is in TX and FL, and as it was in NY,NJ,MA,RI, and CT when it was rampaging through those states a few months back. The first chart tracks the recent explosion of cases, hospitalizations, and deaths from Covid-19 -- especially in the last week, it's dramatic. The second chart is of death totals for AZ through 2018. If we use only that last year as an example, the state had ca. 59k total deaths, ca. 162 per day. In an average year the two leading causes of death are cancer and heart disease, which account for ca. 40% of all deaths. If we apply this to AZ, this translates into ca. 65 deaths from those two diseases combined, on an average day. Yet within the past week, Covid-19 has been killing people in the state to the tune of 80-100 people a day -- more than those two diseases combined. And since its growth continues to be exponential, the death rate from Covid-19 will continue to soar.
https://covidtracking.com/data/state/arizona
https://pub.azdhs.gov/health-stats/r...18/pdf/5e1.pdf
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like how you limit it to "the past week". How about we go back when this thing got rolling in march, or april, or may. Sure its peaking now but such is life.
were all dead man, were ****ing dead. That thing is out there and its going to get us.
Last edited by GMB@BP; 07-12-2020 at 09:12 PM.
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07-12-2020, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by lansdale
Not sure what leads you to believe all this, but Covid-19 is now the leading cause of death in AZ, as it is in TX and FL, and as it was in NY,NJ,MA,RI, and CT when it was rampaging through those states a few months back. The first chart tracks the recent explosion of cases, hospitalizations, and deaths from Covid-19 -- especially in the last week, it's dramatic. The second chart is of death totals for AZ through 2018. If we use only that last year as an example, the state had ca. 59k total deaths, ca. 162 per day. In an average year the two leading causes of death are cancer and heart disease, which account for ca. 40% of all deaths. If we apply this to AZ, this translates into ca. 65 deaths from those two diseases combined, on an average day. Yet within the past week, Covid-19 has been killing people in the state to the tune of 80-100 people a day -- more than those two diseases combined. And since its growth continues to be exponential, the death rate from Covid-19 will continue to soar.
https://covidtracking.com/data/state/arizona
https://pub.azdhs.gov/health-stats/r...18/pdf/5e1.pdf
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here is the article walking back the statement, she knows she heard it but they say its not the case.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...im/5418150002/
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07-14-2020, 07:18 PM
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Geroux the latest (to best of my knowledge) of the crew that was at Keeneland to test positive.
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07-14-2020, 10:58 PM
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Any idea how long Saez will be out?
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