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11-02-2010, 10:38 AM
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WORKFORCE doubtful
Ground much too firm apparently. May not be risked.
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11-02-2010, 11:46 AM
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Can't he just wear cushion shoes ? 
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11-02-2010, 11:54 AM
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We have had maybe 2 days with any rain in the last several months here in Kentucky. And those rains were intermittent at best. So the turf is going to be VERY firm. Just an FYI.
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11-02-2010, 05:00 PM
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You think he could have found that out before flying across the ocean. Don't they have the internet in England any longer?
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11-02-2010, 05:05 PM
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Smoke signals and stone tablets......
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Originally Posted by cj
You think he could have found that out before flying across the ocean. Don't they have the internet in England any longer?
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No internet there since the US outlawed betting with their bookmakers.
It's been smoke signals and stone tablets ever since..............
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11-02-2010, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by cj
You think he could have found that out before flying across the ocean. Don't they have the internet in England any longer?
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You'd think owner who runs loads of horses in US would not if he thought it were risky, dangerous or whatever. You'd think trainer would not send Conduit etc if he thought it risky, dangerous or whatever.
These people have me shaking my head tbh.
Last edited by Charlie D; 11-02-2010 at 05:36 PM.
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11-02-2010, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Nets
We have had maybe 2 days with any rain in the last several months here in Kentucky. And those rains were intermittent at best. So the turf is going to be VERY firm. Just an FYI.
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Which European in the BC Turf would benefit the most from rock-hard firm turf?
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11-02-2010, 05:47 PM
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Do they not have sprinklers at CD?
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11-02-2010, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Market Mover
Which European in the BC Turf would benefit the most from rock-hard firm turf?
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Without checking i'm not 100%, but i'll take a guess at, no Euro has raced on rock-hard Firm turf.
Last edited by Charlie D; 11-02-2010 at 05:53 PM.
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11-02-2010, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by nearco
Do they not have sprinklers at CD?
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CD has an irrigation system in their turf course, which watered is watered every night.
I suspect this is a little gamesmanship pressure being applied to CD management and Butch Lehr, the track superintendent. Since rain is possible Thursday thru Friday morning, I think he will be very cautious about adding a lot of extra water. The Workforce camp doesn't appear to be happy about much anyway.
It looked like they had the dogs set out pretty far so with a good number of turf horses pounding away out there in the middle of the course I'm sure it's harder than what the Euros are used to. Even in a non-drought year KY ain't as wet as the UK. I doubt the track is dangerous, but I'm sure right now it's much firmer than what Workforce has been racing on.
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11-02-2010, 05:58 PM
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Very Firm ground, at least the American version, is pretty much unheard of in Europe. Even though it rains all the time in England, Ireland and northern France, they will still turn the sprinklers on at the first sight of anything approaching hard ground.
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11-02-2010, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by nearco
Very Firm ground, at least the American version, is pretty much unheard of in Europe. Even though it rains all the time in England, Ireland and northern France, they will still turn the sprinklers on at the first sight of anything approaching hard ground.
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They turn sprinklers on when they don'y need to on a regular basis
BTW, is there any moaing from connections of Goldi, Midday etc??
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11-03-2010, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Charlie D
You'd think owner who runs loads of horses in US would not if he thought it were risky, dangerous or whatever. You'd think trainer would not send Conduit etc if he thought it risky, dangerous or whatever.
These people have me shaking my head tbh.
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Workforce is much more valuable than Conduit and he may race on again as a 4yo. I don't think they are complaining about the ground just concerned he may get jarred up on it.
Here are a couple of comments from connections this year....
On Good to Firm after the Derby....
The boss prepared him beautifully toget him to here. I expected him to run well, I was worried about the ground. He's just improved from the Dante.
Talking about his King George defeat....
I think maybe the King George came too soon after Epsom and he was running on firm ground. He just didn't settle and he was never going to win at Ascot
To me that sounds like they probably won't risk him.
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11-03-2010, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Market Mover
Which European in the BC Turf would benefit the most from rock-hard firm turf?
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Dangerous Midge would be the most likely but may not be classy enough.
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11-03-2010, 11:22 AM
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Even though it rains all the time in England, Ireland and northern France, they will still turn the sprinklers on at the first sight of anything approaching hard ground.
Average annual rainfall
Newmarket, England 21.49"
Louisville, KY 43.56"
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