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Old 10-16-2016, 09:13 AM   #91
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Take the funding away and see how fast this whole nonsense goes away
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Old 10-16-2016, 09:36 AM   #92
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They've already been proven false. The global warming scare started in 1985 when the hoaxsters claimed that we would be seeing terrifying affects in the next 15 years.
Man! how alt reality, alt right can you be . The posts before you started foolin' arown' here proves just wrong you are.

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Old 10-16-2016, 09:47 AM   #93
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Man! how alt reality, alt right can you be . The posts before you started foolin' arown' here proves just wrong you are.
In other words, you have no intention of reading any of the articles I provided that proves global warming is rejected by tens of thousands of scientists. Enough that if the hoaxsters really cared that they would actually want a dialogue if their motives were other than greed.

But since a scientific dialogue would impact their cash flow...
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Old 10-16-2016, 10:44 AM   #94
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In other words, you have no intention of reading any of the articles I provided that proves global warming is rejected by tens of thousands of scientists. Enough that if the hoaxsters really cared that they would actually want a dialogue if their motives were other than greed.

But since a scientific dialogue would impact their cash flow...
No I do not intend to read any of your tripe. I said to classhandicapper when he asked for."Wikileaks of the communications on global warming"
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We already know the alt right has compromised the SCIENCE on AGW.

The reason I stopped posting regularly on this subject is ultimately the data must be sourced from creditable sources, and whenever I use creditable sources ----among dozens and dozens of real governmental, private, scholastic and peer reviewed scientifically accurate sources----climate skeptics here will cite absurd non-scientific, non-rational contrarian alt right bogus sources like Anthony Watts or breitbart.com and all their their derivative.
All the sites and links you mention DO NOT draw on accredited scientific agencies or peer-reviewed papers. They all derive from a small minority of deniers living in an alt right, alt reality world postulating vast cosmic conspiracies.

When deniers find one scientific agency, one scholarly journal honestly questioning the overwhelming consensus for AGW, I will be glad to look at it

No wonder the chumpeters and their spaced out hero, hallucinate up their kazoos lost in non scientific, irrational paranoid delusions.
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I provided that proves global warming is rejected by tens of thousands of scientists.
No you have not. Total bullshit!

Yes you are screwing around. Get serious. Do the work.

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Old 10-16-2016, 11:00 AM   #95
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No I do not intend to read any of your tripe.[B].
Thank you for explaining your ignorance on the subject. You need not say anything else.
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Old 10-16-2016, 11:12 AM   #96
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Take the funding away and see how fast this whole nonsense goes away
Truer words have never been spoken!!
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Old 10-16-2016, 11:35 AM   #97
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Just show me that all the ones leading this movement are walking the walk and they might have some credibility

So far, the Emperor has no clothes. (Damn good thing with it getting so damned hot out there!)

The leader of this weather cult thinks the core of the Earth is millions of degrees! I don't spent a lot time in Religious OT, but doesn't the Vice Wacko, hcap mock Boxcar for saying the Earth is only 6,000 years old?

Seems to me the Viceroy is talking out of both sides of his mouth.
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Old 10-16-2016, 02:04 PM   #98
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Just show me that all the ones leading this movement are walking the walk and they might have some credibility

So far, the Emperor has no clothes. (Damn good thing with it getting so damned hot out there!)

The leader of this weather cult thinks the core of the Earth is millions of degrees! I don't spent a lot time in Religious OT, but doesn't the Vice Wacko, hcap mock Boxcar for saying the Earth is only 6,000 years old?

Seems to me the Viceroy is talking out of both sides of his mouth.
Exactly. Soon as those clowns start riding their bikes and walking only, then they can convince me.
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Old 10-16-2016, 02:38 PM   #99
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I provided that proves global warming is rejected by tens of thousands of scientists.
I reiterate, total unmitigated BULL! Your "Petition Project" stins to high heaven.

https://www.skepticalscience.com/OIS...on-Project.htm

There are several claims that large numbers of scientists do not agree with the theory of climate change, the best known of which is a petition organised by the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine (the OISM petition). This petition now appears to be signed by over 32,000 people with a BSc or higher qualification.

The signatories agree with these statements:

1... The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind.
2....There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate.


No evidence has ever been offered to support the first statement, and the second statement is in flat contradiction with the scientists who study climate change. There are also valid issues regarding the methodology:
The organisers have never revealed how many people they canvassed (so the response rate is unknown) nor have they revealed the sampling methodology, an ironic omission considering how much fuss is made about scientists being candid and making public their methods and data.
The petition is, in terms of climate change science, rather out of date.

In the professional field of climate science, the consensus is unequivocal: human activities are causing climate change and additional anthropogenic CO2 may cause great disruption to the climate.


Temperature data from four international science institutions. All show rapid warming in the past few decades and that the last decade has been the warmest on record. Data sources: NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, NOAA National Climatic Data Center, Met Office Hadley Centre/Climatic Research Unit and the Japanese Meteorological Agency.

Multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals1 show that 97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree: Climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities. In addition, most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position. The following is a partial list of these organizations, along with links to their published statements and a selection of related resources.
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I repeat, find one scientific agency, national or international, that believes AGW is not happening.

Here is a list of those that do......

https://www.opr.ca.gov/s_listoforganizations.php

List of Worldwide Scientific Organizations
(Scientific Organizations That Hold the Position That Climate Change Has Been Caused by Human Action)

Academia Chilena de Ciencias, Chile
Academia das Ciencias de Lisboa, Portugal
Academia de Ciencias de la República Dominicana
Academia de Ciencias Físicas, Matemáticas y Naturales de Venezuela
Academia de Ciencias Medicas, Fisicas y Naturales de Guatemala
Academia Mexicana de Ciencias,Mexico
Academia Nacional de Ciencias de Bolivia
Academia Nacional de Ciencias del Peru
Académie des Sciences et Techniques du Sénégal
Académie des Sciences, France
Academies of Arts, Humanities and Sciences of Canada
Academy of Athens
Academy of Science of Mozambique
Academy of Science of South Africa
Academy of Sciences for the Developing World (TWAS)
Academy of Sciences Malaysia
Academy of Sciences of Moldova
Academy of Sciences of the Czech Republic
Academy of Sciences of the Islamic Republic of Iran
Academy of Scientific Research and Technology, Egypt
Academy of the Royal Society of New Zealand
Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei, Italy
Africa Centre for Climate and Earth Systems Science
African Academy of Sciences
Albanian Academy of Sciences
Amazon Environmental Research Institute
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Anthropological Association
American Association for the Advancement of Science
American Association of State Climatologists (AASC)
American Association of Wildlife Veterinarians
American Astronomical Society
American Chemical Society
American College of Preventive Medicine
American Fisheries Society
American Geophysical Union
American Institute of Biological Sciences
American Institute of Physics
American Meteorological Society
American Physical Society
American Public Health Association
American Quaternary Association
American Society for Microbiology
American Society of Agronomy
American Society of Civil Engineers
American Society of Plant Biologists
American Statistical Association
Association of Ecosystem Research Centers
Australian Academy of Science
Australian Bureau of Meteorology
Australian Coral Reef Society
Australian Institute of Marine Science
Australian Institute of Physics
Australian Marine Sciences Association
Australian Medical Association
Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
Bangladesh Academy of Sciences
Botanical Society of America
Brazilian Academy of Sciences
British Antarctic Survey
Bulgarian Academy of Sciences
California Academy of Sciences
Cameroon Academy of Sciences
Canadian Association of Physicists
Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences
Canadian Geophysical Union
Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
Canadian Society of Soil Science
Canadian Society of Zoologists
Caribbean Academy of Sciences views
Center for International Forestry Research
Chinese Academy of Sciences
Colombian Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences
Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization (CSIRO) (Australia)
Consultative Group on International Agricultural Research
Croatian Academy of Arts and Sciences
Crop Science Society of America
Cuban Academy of Sciences
Delegation of the Finnish Academies of Science and Letters
Ecological Society of America
Ecological Society of Australia
Environmental Protection Agency
European Academy of Sciences and Arts
European Federation of Geologists
European Geosciences Union
European Physical Society
European Science Foundation
Federation of American Scientists
French Academy of Sciences
Geological Society of America
Geological Society of Australia
Geological Society of London
Georgian Academy of Sciences
German Academy of Natural Scientists Leopoldina
Ghana Academy of Arts and Sciences
Indian National Science Academy
Indonesian Academy of Sciences
Institute of Ecology and Environmental Management
Institute of Marine Engineering, Science and Technology
Institute of Professional Engineers New Zealand
Institution of Mechanical Engineers, UK
InterAcademy Council
International Alliance of Research Universities
International Arctic Science Committee
International Association for Great Lakes Research
International Council for Science
International Council of Academies of Engineering and Technological Sciences
International Research Institute for Climate and Society
International Union for Quaternary Research
International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics
International Union of Pure and Applied Physics
Islamic World Academy of Sciences
Israel Academy of Sciences and Humanities
Kenya National Academy of Sciences
Korean Academy of Science and Technology
Kosovo Academy of Sciences and Arts
l'Académie des Sciences et Techniques du Sénégal
Latin American Academy of Sciences
Latvian Academy of Sciences
Lithuanian Academy of Sciences
Madagascar National Academy of Arts, Letters, and Sciences
Mauritius Academy of Science and Technology
Montenegrin Academy of Sciences and Arts
National Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences, Argentina
National Academy of Sciences of Armenia
National Academy of Sciences of the Kyrgyz Republic
National Academy of Sciences, Sri Lanka
National Academy of Sciences, United States of America
National Aeronautics and Space Administration
National Association of Geoscience Teachers
National Association of State Foresters
National Center for Atmospheric Research
National Council of Engineers Australia
National Institute of Water & Atmospheric Research, New Zealand
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
National Research Council
National Science Foundation
Natural England
Natural Environment Research Council, UK
Natural Science Collections Alliance
Network of African Science Academies
New York Academy of Sciences
Nicaraguan Academy of Sciences
Nigerian Academy of Sciences
Norwegian Academy of Sciences and Letters
Oklahoma Climatological Survey
Organization of Biological Field Stations
Pakistan Academy of Sciences
Palestine Academy for Science and Technology
Pew Center on Global Climate Change
Polish Academy of Sciences
Romanian Academy
Royal Academies for Science and the Arts of Belgium
Royal Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences of Spain
Royal Astronomical Society, UK
Royal Danish Academy of Sciences and Letters
Royal Irish Academy
Royal Meteorological Society (UK)
Royal Netherlands Academy of Arts and Sciences
Royal Netherlands Institute for Sea Research
Royal Scientific Society of Jordan
Royal Society of Canada
Royal Society of Chemistry, UK
Royal Society of the United Kingdom
Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences
Russian Academy of Sciences
Science and Technology, Australia
Science Council of Japan
Scientific Committee on Antarctic Research
Scientific Committee on Solar-Terrestrial Physics
Scripps Institution of Oceanography
Serbian Academy of Sciences and Arts
Slovak Academy of Sciences
Slovenian Academy of Sciences and Arts
Society for Ecological Restoration International
Society for Industrial and Applied Mathematics
Society of American Foresters
Society of Biology (UK)
Society of Systematic Biologists
Soil Science Society of America
Sudan Academy of Sciences
Sudanese National Academy of Science
Tanzania Academy of Sciences
The Wildlife Society (international)
Turkish Academy of Sciences
Uganda National Academy of Sciences
Union of German Academies of Sciences and Humanities
United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
University Corporation for Atmospheric Research
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution
World Association of Zoos and Aquariums
World Federation of Public Health Associations
World Forestry Congress
World Health Organization
World Meteorological Organization
Zambia Academy of Sciences
Zimbabwe Academy of Sciences
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Peer-reviewed papers.
Do your homework

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Old 10-16-2016, 03:17 PM   #102
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Hey hcap,

Put a million dollars in front of me and I would say just about anything. I confess, I would. All those organizations are bought and paid for. Gee, I guess their not biased.
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Old 10-16-2016, 03:41 PM   #103
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Put a million dollars in front of me and I would say just about anything. I confess, I would. All those organizations are bought and paid for. Gee, I guess their not biased.
The Alt Right, Alex Jones, Drudge and Breitbart would be so proud of you.

You have no evidence.
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Old 10-16-2016, 04:11 PM   #104
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You have no evidence.
That is what I asked YOU for - what PROGRESS have you got to report for all the time and money you have wasted on this fool's errand?

How many degrees have yo managed to cool 'er down?
How much more do you need to go to reach your target?
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Old 10-16-2016, 04:11 PM   #105
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You have no evidence.
How many of those groups on that list that you post every couple of months have any independent evidence, and how many are just going along with the herd? How many of them never did any research of their own, and base their position entirely on a few sources like the University of East Anglia or a couple of peer reviewed papers?

Or on a few articles in the NY Times or the Washington Post?
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