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10-11-2020, 11:45 AM
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what an easy game.
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COVID-19 DEATHS BY STATES
COVID-19 DEATHS BY STATES
USING THE CDC DATA I TABULATED THE DEATHS PER STATE, PER TOTAL CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT IN EACH STATE
WHAT IS MISSING IN THIS TABULATION IS A POPULATION DENSITY FACTOR PER CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT AND PERHAPS MEDIAN AGE.
FOR INSTANCE, THERE WERE 583 DEATHS PER CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT IN THE BLUE STATES.
ELIMINATE A HIGH POPULATION DENSITY STATE LIKE NEW YORK,THAT NUMBER DROPS DOWN TO 533.
THAT’S A 9% CHANGE
ITS NOT SO MUCH ABOUT RED OR BLUE STATES, AN IMPORTANT FACTOR TO CONSIDER IS POPULATION DENSITY.
FOR THOSE WHO FOLLOW THE LOGIC OF TRUMP I’LL OFFER YOU SOME RED MEAT TO MISUSE.
BLUE STATES 583
RED STATES 415
SWING STATES 477
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Last edited by formula_2002; 10-11-2020 at 11:47 AM.
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10-11-2020, 11:52 AM
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No one knows the exact number because deaths by other reasons are lumped in with COVID deaths. It wouldn't surprise me if people who died by car accident and tested positive for COVID afterwards were labeled as dying of COVID.
The numbers are meaningless to me at this point.
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10-11-2020, 12:09 PM
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what an easy game.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by letswastemoney
No one knows the exact number because deaths by other reasons are lumped in with COVID deaths. It wouldn't surprise me if people who died by car accident and tested positive for COVID afterwards were labeled as dying of COVID.
The numbers are meaningless to me at this point.
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Explain that to the cdc.
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10-11-2020, 12:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by formula_2002
Explain that to the cdc.
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What good would that do? They're a big part of the problem, wanting to inflate the numbers as much as possible.
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10-11-2020, 02:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by letswastemoney
No one knows the exact number because deaths by other reasons are lumped in with COVID deaths. It wouldn't surprise me if people who died by car accident and tested positive for COVID afterwards were labeled as dying of COVID.
The numbers are meaningless to me at this point.
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That exact scenario happened in FL. A death by motorcycle became a Covid death because he tested positive after the fact.
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10-11-2020, 02:52 PM
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I stopped following this about the last time I posted on it. I skim the posts in this forum and that is about as much as I follow it. I came to the conclusion back then this is all bs and nothing has changed my mind yet. I think I need to change my posting name to miracle walking as I have opened my business since May, (and yes business sucks, but it beats the hell out of no business), been in a high turnover warehouse full of strangers 5 nights a week and miraculously this virus seems to not find me. Shocking.
Back to your post, I think you are ignoring the fact that isn't it mostly the blue states that have these extreme lockdowns that are supposed to be protecting their population. Isn't it the irresponsible republican Governors that opened up way too soon and we were going to see hundreds of body bags full of covid patients lining up in those states. But here you presented stats many months later that indicate that the Blue states are still doing worse even with your modifications.
Isn't that the point? These restrictions were a complete power grab for whatever reason (power hungry, screw up trumps economy, lack of common sense, fast track to socialism, who the f*** knows) and much of the economy is completely screwed because of it. But it relieves me to know that Amazon and Facebook and Target and Walmart are thriving, that will make the world a better place (sarcasm alert).
Like I said back then, if you want to hide in your basement, nobody's stopping you. If you are vulnerable, your life may depend on it. But government completely overstepping their boundaries over this disease that has no chance of even reaching the number of deaths in 2020 that we have each and every year from smoking is beyond ridiculous and that is if the numbers are even legit. I have had more than one person in the medical field (so they claim, I didn't check their credentials) tell me that hospitals are throwing Covid up as cause of death because of the financial benefit. True or not who knows, but if you are running a hospital and you have a patient die, and you have a choice between calling it heart disease(or whatever) or Covid, and there is a big financial benefit to calling it covid, it seems to me that plenty are going to take advantage. I know, in the moral cesspool we live in, people are suddenly going to develop morals (sarcasm alert number 2).
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10-11-2020, 03:01 PM
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what an easy game.
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Poindexter. Let's hope the apparent deceptions pointed out in your post are limited, and scientific thinking and responsibility prevails, else it's back to the dark ages.
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10-11-2020, 03:25 PM
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what an easy game.
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Falsifying at death certificate is a felony
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10-11-2020, 03:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by formula_2002
Poindexter. Let's hope the apparent deceptions pointed out in your post are limited, and scientific thinking and responsibility prevails, else it's back to the dark ages.
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"let's hope" he says....LET'S HOPE....LET'S HOPE?
Wow.
Let's base closing down the economy and ****ing over millions of people on HOPE.
Poindexter is spot on.
and hcap accuses ME of burying my head in the sand.
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10-11-2020, 03:53 PM
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what an easy game.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
"let's hope" he says....LET'S HOPE....LET'S HOPE?
Wow.
Let's base closing down the economy and ****ing over millions of people on HOPE.
Poindexter is spot on.
and hcap accuses ME of burying my head in the sand.
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Back it up with the facts
And you are welcome to the discussion else it's just trumpian
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10-11-2020, 03:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poindexter
These restrictions were a complete power grab for whatever reason (power hungry, screw up trumps economy, lack of common sense, fast track to socialism, who the f*** knows) and much of the economy is completely screwed because of it.
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Well said!
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10-11-2020, 04:12 PM
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what an easy game.
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More trumpian nonsense
Doesn't any of you deal with substantiated facts? Do the work, stop coping meaningless verbiage from each other
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Peace on earth, good will to all
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10-11-2020, 04:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by formula_2002
Falsifying at death certificate is a felony
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Did you have a point to make? Do you think all the bodies listed as "covid" fatalities are going to be exhumed from their graves for purposes of autopsies?
It was well known from the beginning that hospitals and other medical facilities would be compensated for every death that they officially listed as caused by covid. This is old news. Google it.
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10-11-2020, 04:32 PM
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why don't you report it as deaths per 100,000 and show us NY and NJ
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10-11-2020, 04:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boxcar
Did you have a point to make? Do you think all the bodies listed as "covid" fatalities are going to be exhumed from their graves for purposes of autopsies?
It was well known from the beginning that hospitals and other medical facilities would be compensated for every death that they officially listed as caused by covid. This is old news. Google it.
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Not only that, but hospital get paid more to care for Covid patients. A LOT more.
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