He was a She

[Fager Fan]

Originally Posted by proximity

“There was an egregious mistake and I just can't talk about it further,” Broberg told the Paulick Report on Sunday. “Obviously it is very embarrassing. I've already talked to the owners that were involved. My intentions are to make the purse right with them. We'll have to see how it plays out from there.”

what does broberg mean by this?

I assume he means he plans to pay the owners of both horses the winning purse amount.

[Hambletonian]

In Hong Kong they would probably ban everyone involved for life.

[chadk66]

identifier also tattoo's the two year olds before they race for the first time. it's usually done at the track also.

[green80]

The identifier has to match the letter and numbers under the horses lip to what is on their clipboard. A third grader could do if if he had somebody to lift the horses lip.

First the track vet checks the tattoo when he does the pre race vet check.

Second the identifier checks the tattoo in the paddock.

Third the Paddock judge checks the markings on the horse.

Did Broberg or an assistant saddle? They should know their own horses.

And they are telling us everybody failed these simple task.

And nobody at the track could tell a mare from a gelding?

This deal stinks and I think the public is being fed a line of BS.

[highnote]

I guess the old grey mare ain't what she used to be.

[cj]

Anybody heard a follow up on this? I wonder if Equibase has corrected the charts? I definitely have to update some speed figures I would imagine.

[cj]

Originally Posted by cj

Anybody heard a follow up on this? I wonder if Equibase has corrected the charts? I definitely have to update some speed figures I would imagine.

I checked, the charts are not updated to reflect which horses actually ran in the races.

For those keeping track, both are Remington.

9-4-2017, R8, Onemorefastdance probably didn't race, it waas most likely Collateral Kitten that finished fourth, though I haven't seen this confirmed.

9-16-2017, R5, Collateral Kitten didn't actually race and win, it was Onemorefastdance.

[cj]

Broberg running horses (and winning) at Remington tonight. Sad that he can't be banned until this is sorted out.

[VigorsTheGrey]

So how do they sequence the tatoos when they first place them on the horses...? How many letters and numbers are in the tatoo...do they go by year and foal number like, 2015-1586...?

Or maybe a letter to designate gender M-F, then year of birth, then foal number...

I do not see why I cannot ask this question...without it being deleted, it is not off the topic...maybe someone here knows the answer to a simple question...

[Dahoss9698]

Originally Posted by cj

Broberg running horses (and winning) at Remington tonight. Sad that he can't be banned until this is sorted out.

To be honest I feel like this situation is way worse than what Jorge Navarro did in the video that everyone is so up in arms about.

[outofthebox]

Originally Posted by VigorsTheGrey

So how do they sequence the tatoos when they first place them on the horses...? How many letters and numbers are in the tatoo...do they go by year and foal number like, 2015-1586...?

Or maybe a letter to designate gender M-F, then year of birth, then foal number...

I do not see why I cannot ask this question...without it being deleted, it is not off the topic...maybe someone here knows the answer to a simple question...

For example. Horse i.d will come and tattoo your 2yo before he is eligible to run. You give the them the foal papers and they check all the markings, and make sure they match. After they approve the markings, they tattoo the horse with the registration number that goes along with the papers. D'wildamber is a 2015 foal that i tattooed earlier this month. So her number on her papers start with 1516572. Now the tattoo man replaces the 15 with a letter, which just happens to be an S this year. So the tattoo will read as S16572. All papers are put into the racing office at the start of the meet. When a horse is in that day, it is checked for pre race exam by state vet who has copy of tattoo number. The horse id person with have the foal papers in the paddock and check tattoo and markings of the horse.

[VigorsTheGrey]

Originally Posted by outofthebox

For example. Horse i.d will come and tattoo your 2yo before he is eligible to run. You give the them the foal papers and they check all the markings, and make sure they match. After they approve the markings, they tattoo the horse with the registration number that goes along with the papers. D'wildamber is a 2015 foal that i tattooed earlier this month. So her number on her papers start with 1516572. Now the tattoo man replaces the 15 with a letter, which just happens to be an S this year. So the tattoo will read as S16572. All papers are put into the racing office at the start of the meet. When a horse is in that day, it is checked for pre race exam by state vet who has copy of tattoo number. The horse id person with have the foal papers in the paddock and check tattoo and markings of the horse.

Saw the video: http://www.thehorse.com/videos/30371...ses-lip-tattoo

The example horse had a "K" first letter...so I guess that was quite awhile ago since we are around "S" now, I guess...there is probably some master cross reference letter w/ year foaled....Interesting that different breeds have different tattoos but I guess most cross refer to registration number...https://www.thoughtco.com/horse-iden...attoos-1881670
http://www.trpb.com/tattoo.html
http://www.horsedocblog.com/blog/

[VigorsTheGrey]

"They use a special twitch that holds the entire lip inside out (or turned up)...

One letter or number is dipped in ink, and pushed in...repeat in a line untill all are finished. The letters or numbers are made up of tiny prongs.

The horses are not sedated, and it really doesnt look like it bothers them much...I did have one filly lay down when the first one was pushed in...and I did feel bad for her!"
http://myhorseforum.com/threads/how-...-horse.193956/

[cj]

Originally Posted by Dahoss9698

To be honest I feel like this situation is way worse than what Jorge Navarro did in the video that everyone is so up in arms about.

Totally agree.

[VigorsTheGrey]

When and where is the Vet check performed...? Seems like it would be an onerous task to check thoroughly up to 14 horses in a very short time just before they leave to go to the paddock to be saddled...and then follow them out on the track, watching all of them warm up, and scratching some if need be..

Racehorses are naturally skittish animals and do not like anyone messing with them...I can see how turning the lip on 12 animals could take awhile....it would make sense if the Horse IDer had turned back the lip prior to the vet doing the Vet check...I never have seen any lip checking done in the paddock while saddling...I can see how a person who is not "the regular IDer" might not be able to check all the horses...