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06-15-2005, 05:46 PM
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It's Been Awhile
Just looking over the opening day card at Colonial for Friday and noticed that #4 Urban Cowboy in the 4th race last raced 1974 (January 21, 2000) days ago. He is entered at MDSPWT 1 mile and 1/4 on the turf. This will be his second race lifetime at 8 years old. Should be well rested. Got any stats on 5+ years layoffs  ?
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06-15-2005, 06:12 PM
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Does Frankel train him? 
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06-15-2005, 06:41 PM
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Who does the Racing Form Detective like in this one?
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06-15-2005, 06:43 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Reminds me of a jke I heard a while back.
Two cowboys bring a 6 year old maiden to Belmont and enter him in a stakes race. The horse wires the fied and wins by 10, i his first career start.
The two Texans are immediately called to the stewards' office and are asked to explain why they never races a horse that fast before.
"We couldn't catch him 'til last month," was the reply.
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06-15-2005, 10:38 PM
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MD turf route
What's the problem? I think Zippy placed at that age! Show bet!
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06-17-2005, 01:04 PM
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F'geddabout Frankel. Mike Dickinson, bay-bee.
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06-17-2005, 01:17 PM
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Michael Dickinson can't train a dog to eat.
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06-17-2005, 01:22 PM
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I disagree with your opinion of "The Mad Genius".
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06-18-2005, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by kenwoodallpromos
What's the problem? I think Zippy placed at that age! Show bet!
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Good suggestion... he placed (29.4-1 for win odds)
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06-18-2005, 12:35 PM
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Urban Cowboy
$8.40 to show. Voodoo handicapping! (actually I call that "spot" capping.) 
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Last edited by kenwoodallpromos; 06-18-2005 at 12:36 PM.
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06-18-2005, 12:56 PM
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They drop him to MCl and given him a 900 day break to freshen, and he should be the favorite!
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06-19-2005, 12:25 AM
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Drop
He does not need to win, just pay for his own retirement!
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06-23-2005, 11:53 AM
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Here's another one. Hastings Park race 5 this Saturday, June 25. River Ruckus is entered. Her last race November 5, 1999! That was her 3 year old year.
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06-24-2005, 12:04 PM
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Dickinson can't train?
Dickinson can't train a dog to eat?
What he did with BUSINESS IS BOOMING is rather amazing. BIB won a race at MTH a few years ago off a 5 year layoff -- TO THE DAY. BIB then went on to win something like 4 of his next 5 races. This occurred sometime in the 2 years between DA HOSS's 2 BC Mile wins, so I wasn't surprised by DA HOSS's 2nd victory. I didn't have a ticket, but I wasn't surprised.
Over the last 2 1/2 years, Dickinson has won with about 22.5% of his starters. Since this probably puts him in the 97th percentile of trainers, I think it's unfair to say he can't train. His $2 ROI over that time is $1.79, so it sounds like someone is catching his fair share of Dickinson's 77.5% losers. I rarely bet his horses, which are mostly underlays, and I don't recall cashing more than 1 or 2 tickets on them ever, but I think it's safe to say MD can train a little.
He's just not easy to profit from.
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06-24-2005, 12:12 PM
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Hastings
Big risk; look closely at her recent training before jumping in (I do not have the PP's).
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