The Boxer Number; An Overall Horse Capability Rating.

[thoroughbred]

I plan, when time permits, to write up explanations of some of the research I have done over the years, in a more terse way than in the original papers.

I've done the first one. It deals with what I call the "Boxer Number", which is an overall horse capability rating.

You can view it at:

http://www.revelationprofits.com/art...den_doors2.htm

[e_r]

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[kenwoodallpromos]

I'm making my own figures with my own "standard".

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by kenwoodallpromos

I'm making my own figures with my own "standard".

Unless you plan to share like Thoroughbred is....I say "so what."

If you guys have nothing nice to write, don't write anything at all to people who are willing to share something. It's a major turn off.

[kenwoodallpromos]

I thought the poster was inviting to check out his commercial website for comments instead of just trying to sell something- I was just trying to let him know I looked at the site.
Don't worry- this won't happen again.

[NoDayJob]

Originally Posted by e_r

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Ah, the sounds heard in a driver's education class---what does that have to do with handicapping, "Sleepy"?

NDJ

[Hosshead]

Originally Posted by thoroughbred

I plan, when time permits, to write up explanations of some of the research I have done over the years, in a more terse way than in the original papers.

I've done the first one. It deals with what I call the "Boxer Number", which is an overall horse capability rating.

You can view it at:

http://www.revelationprofits.com/art...den_doors2.htm

I read the link and it deals with a horse's Last Race. Why would it be an OVERALL Horse Capability Rating when it only deals with a horse's last race? Or do you mean "Overall", as in comparing the last race of ALL the other horses in a race. I know the last race is important BUT:

There are many programs that will give you a good comparison of which horse ran the best last race, and some (like HTR PL-5) that will do more than the last race.

[keilan]

I’m not familiar with your work, though I read something a few years ago that was very similar to this, could have been your site?

Your “box number” for me defines class to a large extent; horses that have equal or greater early speed with lower friction numbers are the classer animals. That seems like a reasonably good starting point, what other variables are factored into your “box number”?

[Kreed]

I respect any academic approach. Its cool to take concepts like friction
and define it to capping. But Hoss' question is fair (if its accurate) because
if only it were that easy. Like Keilan I have a question: Is Class = Time/Pace
in your mind, or do you measure it in more ways?

[thoroughbred]

[QUOTE=Hosshead]I read the link and it deals with a horse's Last Race. Why would it be an OVERALL Horse Capability Rating when it only deals with a horse's last race? Or do you mean "Overall", as in comparing the last race of ALL the other horses in a race. I know the last race is important BUT:

There are many programs that will give you a good comparison of which horse ran the best last race, and some (like HTR PL-5) that will do more than the last race.[/QUOTE

Hosshead,
Good question. Thanks for asking so I can clarify.

It's not the last race that is being used. Rather, as stated at the end of the article, it is the comparison of horses for whatever paceline is chosed for each horse. You can use the last race if you wish, or any other race to obtain the "Boxer" number of that particular paceline. The term "Overall" means that the "Boxer" number takes into account, what I believe are, the two more important measures of horse capability, namely, Early Speed, and ability to last (Friction).

[thoroughbred]

Originally Posted by keilan

I’m not familiar with your work, though I read something a few years ago that was very similar to this, could have been your site?

Your “box number” for me defines class to a large extent; horses that have equal or greater early speed with lower friction numbers are the classer animals. That seems like a reasonably good starting point, what other variables are factored into your “box number”?

Keilan,
Yes, as you can see from the graph in the article, for the "Boxer" Number the FINAL step in getting in getting its numerical value is the distance away from the standard horse graph of Early Speed and Friction.

However, as you probably can infer, to obtain the Early Speed and Friction, other variables are used. What I take into account includes the values of internal call and finish time and position, track variant, and weight carried.

[thoroughbred]

Originally Posted by Kreed

I respect any academic approach. Its cool to take concepts like friction
and define it to capping. But Hoss' question is fair (if its accurate) because
if only it were that easy. Like Keilan I have a question: Is Class = Time/Pace
in your mind, or do you measure it in more ways?

Kreed,

Thanks for your gracious comment.

I think my reply to Hoss answers your question also. Please let me know if there is more that you had in mind.

[Kreed]

I see what you value and I'm never gonna argue with anyone who actually
measures a concept. Are you Personally Pleased with your system? What
(if any) things would you like to do further? Do you know what areas you
treat poorly? a lot of questions, but you know what I'm asking I'm sure.

[thoroughbred]

Originally Posted by Kreed

I see what you value and I'm never gonna argue with anyone who actually
measures a concept. Are you Personally Pleased with your system? What
(if any) things would you like to do further? Do you know what areas you
treat poorly? a lot of questions, but you know what I'm asking I'm sure.

Kreed,
Yes, I am personally pleased.
As to your other questions: From the Introduction to the "Boxer Number" article you can see that I hope to write other simplified articles about other aspects of the handicapping research. In the meantime, if you like, you can explore the documentation at: www.revelationprofits.com where you will find many of the additional "further" items that may interest you. As to areas that I treat "poorly" I suffer, as all of us do, from the lack of important information that are usually never known to us. An example, among many, would be, the trainers instructions to the jockey.

[rastajenk]

Or midnight trips to Hyperbaric Chambers!