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04-26-2018, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Gerard02
I watched the race and the one thing I was wondering was why the jockey was pushing Mendelssohn down the stretch so hard. He even gave him a slap with the stick. The horse was so far down the stretch, he could have jogged home. The jockey should not have been all out on this horse. I've seen jocks just sitting up in the stirrups while horses cruise home. Just something I noticed.
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I think that came from the trainer, keep him going the whole race. He thinks if you let up on the horse, the horse will learn to quit in the stretch.
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04-26-2018, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jay68802
I think that came from the trainer, keep him going the whole race. He thinks if you let up on the horse, the horse will learn to quit in the stretch.
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I'm not sure about that. You don't push a horse, if you don't have to. Horses have a sense of their races. They know when they are going good. Some are lazy, but this was not a case of give him the goods. Something about the race is nagging me. I'll lay off this boy, until I have another option. I may get it next week.
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04-26-2018, 08:45 PM
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Did Giants Causeway ever quit? Nope
Did Toast Of New York quit? Nope
Did Declaration Of War? Nope...
Could be something to it..
Them boys 'cross the pond can train for stamina, tell ya what!
They all lost though.
Last edited by PoloUK6108; 04-26-2018 at 08:47 PM.
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04-27-2018, 08:25 AM
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The Filly on Fri. in the Oaks will give a much better reading of what to make of Mindy....
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04-27-2018, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by sammy the sage
The Filly on Fri. in the Oaks will give a much better reading of what to make of Mindy....
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Yes. If Rayaa wins as much the best, Mendelssohn is my key/single. If she trails and doesn't lift a gallop, then maybe she didn't ship well or didn't like the CD surface, and I still use Mendy, but with Justify and GM. If she clunks along and finishes midpack, then it'll be more difficult for me to use him on top.
Last edited by kevb; 04-27-2018 at 10:50 PM.
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04-28-2018, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by clicknow
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Wow now there's one to watch! Thanks for that clicknow.
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04-28-2018, 11:06 AM
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The number of people I have heard tossing both Justify and Magnum Moon, whether on tv and radio or on message boards or in simulcast rooms, is making me think the 2 need to be a cold exacta box. No much value, but couple that with one tv expert saying Mendel will be first or off the ticket, I think I have found the horse to put in the third slot.
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04-28-2018, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by glengarry
The number of people I have heard tossing both Justify and Magnum Moon, whether on tv and radio or on message boards or in simulcast rooms, is making me think the 2 need to be a cold exacta box. No much value, but couple that with one tv expert saying Mendel will be first or off the ticket, I think I have found the horse to put in the third slot.
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Sounds like a plan! Does glenross agree?
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04-28-2018, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueChip@DRF
Sounds like a plan! Does glenross agree?
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You mean Glenross Farms? One thing I learned from a top handicapper, last name Roma. If everyone thinks one thing, I say bet the other way
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04-28-2018, 12:05 PM
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Seahenge
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Originally Posted by kevb
Yes. If Rayaa wins as much the best, Mendelssohn is my key/single. If she trails and doesn't lift a gallop, then maybe she didn't ship well or didn't like the CD surface, and I still use Mendy, but with Justify and GM. If she clunks along and finishes midpack, then it'll be more difficult for me to use him on top.
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Seahenge is supposedly going to run in the Pat Day Mile.
Another KY bred Coolmore/Aiden O'Brien Scat Daddy whose been racing against Mendelssohn from almost day one, may provide even better insight. On firm ground, he's lost to Mendelssohn 3 in a row- on Del Mar turf, Dundalk all weather, and Dubai sand.
If I could, I'd place a bet on a Rayya - Mendelssohn - Seahenge sweep, just for the heck of it.
Boy does Coolmore really wants a new replacement for Scat Daddy. FWIW, they were interested in Justify but passed because he did not pass their vet inspection.
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04-28-2018, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueChip@DRF
Does glenross agree?
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David Mamet at his best.
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04-28-2018, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by glengarry
You mean Glenross Farms? One thing I learned from a top handicapper, last name Roma. If everyone thinks one thing, I say bet the other way
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Hey wait a minute, that's my last name!
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04-28-2018, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PowerUpPaynter
A Note About Mendelssohn That Deserves Its Own Thread
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More significant is his trainer being 1-for-54 lifetime in American graded stakes on dirt.
Now whyyyyyyyyyyyy is anyone even considering his charge at a massive underlay??
At least wait until the guy ascends to the 2% threshold in that category.
Last edited by AskinHaskin; 04-28-2018 at 10:35 PM.
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04-28-2018, 11:03 PM
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Uh-oh. I feel a storm a-brewin’...
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