THE INSANITY CURRENTLY GRIPPING THE INDUSTRY HAS TO END NOW!

[Track Phantom]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

GP race 5 just now...I had the as my top pick @ 9/5 on my line

Went in the gate @ 6/5

Won the race @ 9/5

I didn't bet the race because I get screwed by the fact it was below my line until the race went off.

The horse that was part of the early pace that was 7/2 going into the gate, also drifted up to 4/1 in the final flash, so they didn't bet the early speed either, and this was a 5f turf sprint.

Guess the past posters weren't watching this race.

And Gulfstream has a TON of CRW money going into the pools every day...and I mean a ton.

No, because they were focused on HAW race 4 where the #1 was 10-1 morning line (beaten double digits in all four races), on the board at 3-1 during the running of the race (actually rewound it on my TV via TVG to verify). Wins by 10 lengths and final odds of 9-5.

Man those computer guys are good.

[Poindexter]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

AQU finale....I had the winner @ 9/5 on my line
4/1 on the M/L
Bet him at 4/1 going into the gate
He broke from the gate @ 3/1
And won the race @ 5/2

And he was the 3rd choice in the double...

Thought I'd post one where I got smacked with another odds crop in the last few seconds of action.

Actually the horse was 2.90-1 2nd choice in double, paid 2.85-1 final odds. Seems about right.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by Poindexter

Actually the horse was 2.90-1 2nd choice in double, paid 2.85-1 final odds. Seems about right.

Here's the double willpays I saw:

4-6=48.20
4-9=53.00
4-8=58.00

Third choice.

But it doesn't really matter. The winner was the favorite in the P3 & P4.

[Track Phantom]

EVD Race 4:

Last horse loading in the gate (odds/ML odds/DD will-pays)
1: 7-1 (7-2) $52.80
2: 5-1 (12-1) $65.80
3: 22-1 (8-1) $149.80
4: 30-1 (12-1) $200.20
5: 4-1 (6-1) $53.40
6: SCR (20-1) N/A
7: 35-1 (5-1) $202.20
8: 30-1 (6-1) $183.20
9: 9-1 (8-1) $79.80
10: 4-5 (4-1) $24.20

Final odds:
1: 6-1 (7-2) $52.80
2: 7-2 (12-1) $65.80
3: 22-1 (8-1) $149.80
4: 30-1 (12-1) $200.20
5: 7-2 (6-1) $53.40
6: SCR (20-1) N/A
7: 40-1 (5-1) $202.20
8: 50-1 (6-1) $183.20
9: 5-1 (8-1) $79.80
10: 3-2 (4-1) $24.20

Four horses were lower final odds than when the last horse loaded but two of those #1 and #5 were only slightly lower. Both #2 and #9 dropped significantly.

You guessed it: Final result --- 9/2/10/5

These computer guys are good

[Track Phantom]

CT Race 4:

Last horse loading in the gate (odds/ML odds/P3 will-pays)
1: 1-2 (8-5) $14.55
2: 53-1 (20-1) $491.30
3: 56-1 (20-1) $302.35
4: 9-2 (5-1) $34.00
5: 4-1 (5-2) $30.20
6: 13-1 (9-2) 57.30
7: 11-1 (6-1) $93.55


Final odds:
1: 3-5 (8-5) $14.55
2: 45-1 (20-1) $491.30
3: 58-1 (20-1) $302.35
4: 3-1 (5-1) $34.00
5: 9-2 (5-2) $30.20
6: 14-1 (9-2) 57.30
7: 9-1 (6-1) $93.55

One horse took serious late action (#4). Two others were slightly lower at the final odds (#2 and #7)

You guessed it: Final result --- 4/5/7/6

These computer guys are good

[jay68802]

Originally Posted by Track Phantom

EVD Race 4:

Last horse loading in the gate (odds/ML odds/DD will-pays)
1: 7-1 (7-2) $52.80
2: 5-1 (12-1) $65.80
3: 22-1 (8-1) $149.80
4: 30-1 (12-1) $200.20
5: 4-1 (6-1) $53.40
6: SCR (20-1) N/A
7: 35-1 (5-1) $202.20
8: 30-1 (6-1) $183.20
9: 9-1 (8-1) $79.80
10: 4-5 (4-1) $24.20

Final odds:
1: 6-1 (7-2) $52.80
2: 7-2 (12-1) $65.80
3: 22-1 (8-1) $149.80
4: 30-1 (12-1) $200.20
5: 7-2 (6-1) $53.40
6: SCR (20-1) N/A
7: 40-1 (5-1) $202.20
8: 50-1 (6-1) $183.20
9: 5-1 (8-1) $79.80
10: 3-2 (4-1) $24.20

Four horses were lower final odds than when the last horse loaded but two of those #1 and #5 were only slightly lower. Both #2 and #9 dropped significantly.

You guessed it: Final result --- 9/2/10/5


These computer guys are good

Had a conditional wager on the 9 at 7-1. I went to the store and when I got back I saw the final odds, i thought, crap, no wager on a winner. The bet did go through.

[Track Phantom]

Originally Posted by jay68802

Had a conditional wager on the 9 at 7-1. I went to the store and when I got back I saw the final odds, i thought, crap, no wager on a winner. The bet did go through.

Nice hit. Does the fact that your bet went through mean the late money came in so late that it bypassed your ADW cutoff?

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by jay68802

Had a conditional wager on the 9 at 7-1. I went to the store and when I got back I saw the final odds, i thought, crap, no wager on a winner. The bet did go through.

Happens to me a lot at certain places...like Sunland...I can have a bet go through at 0mtp with a 3-1 condition, win the race, and get a 7/5 payoff...and I'm not joking.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by Track Phantom

Nice hit. Does the fact that your bet went through mean the late money came in so late that it bypassed your ADW cutoff?

Most tracks drag their posts, and most ADWs don't let you condition bet beyond 0mtp....so 0mtp at many tracks is really 3-5mtp in reality, plenty of time for your bet to be accepted at 0mtp, then get pounded into oblivion in the next 3-5 minutes.

One ADW (AmWager), allows you to specify a negative number for mtp, so a conditional bet at -3.5mtp won't check until 3.5 minutes have gone by PAST actual 0mtp (useful for tracks like Tampa and Gulfstream that drag...actually, with Gulfstream, you really need to use -5 or -6mtp...lol)

[jay68802]

Originally Posted by Track Phantom

Nice hit. Does the fact that your bet went through mean the late money came in so late that it bypassed your ADW cutoff?

It has gone both ways, but I am usually not around to watch.

[PaceAdvantage]

Anyone watching the 6th just now at CT? Did a couple of hundred dollars come off the just as he started to fade late on the backstretch? Could have sworn that one had around 11,700 in the win pool and ended at 11,491...but I could be wrong about that.

[P Matties Jr]

I didn't see the pool, but he did go 4/5 to 3/5 on the last flash. However, the winner went from 21-1 to 17-1 and the winning exacta went down the most.

[P Matties Jr]

Last race at Penn:

winner went 9/5 to 8/5
2nd place went 6/1 to 4/1

Finished in a photo. Exactas both way were the big hits on the last flash.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by P Matties Jr

I didn't see the pool, but he did go 4/5 to 3/5 on the last flash. However, the winner went from 21-1 to 17-1 and the winning exacta went down the most.

On my screen the in the CT 6th went from 1-1 to 6-5 at the end....when he broke through the gate right before the start (but didn't go anywhere).

Then I thought, during the race, some money came off as it became obvious the didn't have it today.

[P Matties Jr]

You're right. I was looking at the #1 in the wrong race. He definitely went 1-1 to 6-5.