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03-29-2017, 09:53 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
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Rochester is a sanctuary city.
The Mayor, Lovely Warren says theses illegals make the city what it is today.
She is correct.
Rochester is a cesspool.
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03-29-2017, 10:58 PM
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Just another Facist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Now in Houston
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Originally Posted by McSchell_Racing
I don't get it!,Back in the 70's and 80's if I was here a bit longer then my visa,I trembled at the word Immigration!! And got my ass back to Canada.Now 20 yrs later,I obeyed the US laws to a T. My wife and I went thought the process of coming to the US and getting legal..We paid a hefty sum and it took a agonizing 4 1/2 years. How on earth can these people be protected when there are millions that have obeyed the laws..If they have sanctuary cities then each person who paid to come here should get a refund! This is a kick in the teeth to law abiding citizens.
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Stop making so much sense.
The Governor of Texas is frothing at the mouth and trying to get law passed to lock up sanctuary cities Mayors and whomever goes along with it. Including county sheriffs
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03-30-2017, 02:46 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Thailand
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Originally Posted by NJ Stinks
It's takes about 5 seconds to google and learn. In fact, you could have looked it up yourself quicker than it took you to start this thread.
But it's probably more fun to this way. Especially if you want to learn zip.
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Stinks, you may be right about googling to learn things. I like to hear points of views from live bloggers. And there are quite a few I respect.
I have a great amount of suspicion about Google though i use the browser sometimes. That company took stand against the Temp. pause of Trump, for instance. And they will be the first in line to take Trump's tax cuts. Greed has a place in business but ultimate greed and lack of patriotism for the country in favor of few coins? No, IMO.
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03-30-2017, 09:32 AM
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I actually think your going to see some city officials, politicians, etc. prosecuted. Wonder what they'll think when that starts.
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03-30-2017, 12:06 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Houston , Tx.
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Google news has to be the most anti-Trump news organization in existence. Even their entertainment, business, and sports often have stories bashing Trump and his family. I can't read any of it anymore. A bus load of angry hateful journalist that shouldn't be reporting news for anybody.
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03-30-2017, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by chadk66
I actually think your going to see some city officials, politicians, etc. prosecuted. Wonder what they'll think when that starts.
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Again, just follow the Kash....It should get very interesting and Very hostile eventually..
Trying to get at the Gangsters from the inside out, now that is a tough process...Lotta "TOES"...
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03-30-2017, 03:06 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2013
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Progressives have problems with really hard stuff, like math. And the logic of cause and effect.
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Illegal immigrants in the United States make up approximately 3.5% of the nation’s entire population. According to data compiled from the U.S. Sentencing Commission for fiscal year 2015, illegal immigrants were responsible for 30.2 percent of convictions for kidnapping/hostage taking, 17.8 percent of convictions for drug trafficking, 11.6 percent of convictions for fraud, 10.4 percent of convictions for money laundering, 6.1 percent of convictions for assault, and 5.5 percent of convictions for murder. So much for the myth spread by the pro-illegal immigrant crowd that illegal immigrants commit serious crimes at a much lower rate than U.S.-born citizens.
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http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/266260/sanctuary-cities-choose-criminals-over-citizens-joseph-klein
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03-30-2017, 03:24 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: North Riverside, Il.
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Originally Posted by Marshall Bennett
Liberal ideology at work. Little logic in most of what they believe in.
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There is a great deal of logic to it. Using data, not anecdotes. we find that incarceration rates among illegal immigrants is much lower than among native born Americans of a similar education level. We also find that in sanctuary cities, illegal immigrants are much more likely to report a crime, cooperate in a police investigation, send their kids to school and avail themselves of community services than they are in situations where they are fearful of deportation.
They are also more likely to find and keep a job. Which means they pay taxes. Which means they help to pay for those community services they avail themselves of.
On the other hand we have the conservative logic which says everyone but me is a freeloader and unworthy of serious consideration.
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03-30-2017, 04:31 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2016
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Originally Posted by dkithore
What is the logic behind a fight with Feds to justify protecting illegals (criminal) and criminal illegals? That is , those who have committed more crimes. What are the benefits to a city? cheap labor? a vote (fradulent) or what?
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Seriously, nobody really wants this but they want to 'get back' at Trump for winning a fair democratic election, they're willing to risk their families, their cities and their lives. It has nothing to do with being pro-whatever, it's just 'stick it to Trump' believe me, most people of any political affiliation want a safer hometown, sticking it to Trump is worth it to them.
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03-30-2017, 04:53 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2013
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Originally Posted by EasyGoer89
Seriously, nobody really wants this but they want to 'get back' at Trump for winning a fair democratic election, they're willing to risk their families, their cities and their lives. It has nothing to do with being pro-whatever, it's just 'stick it to Trump' believe me
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Not so. Trump and Sessions are bringing it to greater attention, but this has been around for over 30 years. It was an issue in the 2008 presidential election.
From Wiki:
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Berkeley, California became the first city government in the United States to pass a sanctuary resolution on November 8, 1971.
San Francisco declared itself a sanctuary city in 1989, and city officials strengthened the stance in 2013 with its 'Due Process for All' ordinance. The law declared local authorities could not hold immigrants for immigration officials if they had no violent felonies on their records and did not currently face charges.
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03-30-2017, 06:07 PM
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Join Date: May 2014
Location: Lincoln, NE
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Originally Posted by mostpost
There is a great deal of logic to it. Using data, not anecdotes. we find that incarceration rates among illegal immigrants is much lower than among native born Americans of a similar education level. We also find that in sanctuary cities, illegal immigrants are much more likely to report a crime, cooperate in a police investigation, send their kids to school and avail themselves of community services than they are in situations where they are fearful of deportation.
They are also more likely to find and keep a job. Which means they pay taxes. Which means they help to pay for those community services they avail themselves of.
On the other hand we have the conservative logic which says everyone but me is a freeloader and unworthy of serious consideration.
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Why did Obama deport more illegals than any President before him in the entire history of our country? Surely he knew of these stats, right?
He actually deported more people under his watch than Clinton and W combined.
Surely you were promoting rights for illegals during the Obama administration, right?
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03-30-2017, 06:17 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
Why did Obama deport more illegals than any President before him in the entire history of our country? Surely he knew of these stats, right?
He actually deported more people under his watch than Clinton and W combined.
Surely you were promoting rights for illegals during the Obama administration, right?
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They played with the metric of what constituted " A Deportation " so the actual hands on walk across the border number is not that great.
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03-30-2017, 06:35 PM
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Veteran
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Lincoln, NE
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Originally Posted by OntheRail
They played with the metric of what constituted " A Deportation " so the actual hands on walk across the border number is not that great.
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So the official ICE numbers are incorrect?
https://www.ice.gov/removal-statistics/2016
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03-30-2017, 07:21 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Norfolk VA
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Trump should pass a law allowing citizens to sue the offending jurisdictions and the responsible officials in federal court when they are harmed by illegal aliens that the jurisdictions/Officials release back onto the streets.
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03-30-2017, 07:30 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Norfolk VA
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They are also more likely to find and keep a job. Which means they pay taxes. Which means they help to pay for those community services they avail themselves of.
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Not in CA, to pay for the cost of educating their kids they would have to have an income of 60K a year, the fact is the children of illegal aliens are a huge cost to the state of CA.
When filing taxes, they declare enough dependents to receive all their pay and then get refunds from the IRS when they declare child tax credits for all the kids they claim on their tax returns. Believe me, they know what they are doing and have plenty of help and advise to gain the system.
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