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InsideThePylons-MW · 07-31-2009, 06:49 PM

They are now promoting Penn National.

Woodbine and Penn National since Betfair has taken over.....what could possibly be next? Charge a buck a bet?

Tom · 08-01-2009, 10:19 AM

Penn is a natural for TVG - they cancel every other day, so that leaves plenty of empty air , and TVG has plenty of empty hosts to fill it with yapping!

Gee, is it November already???

andymays · 08-01-2009, 10:26 AM

When something doesn't make much sense but they do it anyway it usually means somebody's making money somewhere through some dubious deal.

Who cares if the majority of Customers (Horseplayers) don't like it? Not Betfair!

cj's dad · 08-01-2009, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by InsideThePylons-MW

They are now promoting Penn National.

Woodbine and Penn National since Betfair has taken over.....what could possibly be next? Charge a buck a bet?

PN ranks right up there with Great Lakes Downs and Fort Erie

What's next ? Timonium ?

harcapper · 08-01-2009, 10:40 AM

TVG & HRTV are designed to attract the new audience. The veteran capper should either use their online video feed from their adw account or obtain RTN.

Quit whining because TVG is never going to do it exactly the way you want unless you become their pres.

Bochall · 08-01-2009, 10:47 AM

Ahhhh, Penn National. My favorite horse of all time, Phantom On Tour, ended his career at Penn running for a 4k Clm tag...shame. Graded Stakes winner, too. Speaking of nice horses running at small tracks: Out Of Gwedda won the other night at Evangeline Downs in Opelousas,La.

Marshall Bennett · 08-01-2009, 11:34 AM

More tracks mean more tape delays , a TVG classic procedure .

Tom Barrister · 08-01-2009, 12:45 PM

They'll probably be covering Charlestown in the near future.

I can't wait until they add the Idaho and B.C. fair circuits. Can you picture Matt Caruthers, on-track, in Western garb?

Marquis Downs is another choice. They could quintuple the handle (about $20k a day) there, not that the adjacent casino would care.

They might as well add the greyhounds, too. It would take the hosts about a week to become experts on that. It would take me about fifteen minutes to teach them enough about greyhounds to fool most of their viewers into thinking the hosts knew what they were talking about.

InsideThePylons-MW · 08-01-2009, 01:04 PM

It has nothing to do with product quality.

The new tracks they are now promoting have larcenous takeout rates which are bad for every horseplayer, even if you don't bet those tracks.

TVG claims to be horseplayer friendly, for the horseplayer and a network which is focused on bringing new people into the game.

How can they say that while promoting Woodbine with 27% tri takeouts and Penn National with 31% tri, 30% super, 28% P-4 takeouts?

Here is the previous thread on the subject when they started promoting Woodbne.

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=59003

Imriledup · 08-01-2009, 01:43 PM

TVG is about TVG and no one else.

They could care less about you or your family.

The Evil NEtwork.

andymays · 08-01-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by InsideThePylons-MW

It has nothing to do with product quality.

The new tracks they are now promoting have larcenous takeout rates which are bad for every horseplayer, even if you don't bet those tracks.

TVG claims to be horseplayer friendly, for the horseplayer and a network which is focused on bringing new people into the game.

How can they say that while promoting Woodbine with 27% tri takeouts and Penn National with 31% tri, 30% super, 28% P-4 takeouts?

Here is the previous thread on the subject when they started promoting Woodbne.

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=59003

HANA should take a stand here. A fight has to start somewhere.

BUD · 08-01-2009, 02:32 PM

They put a very hot lookin chick on the set monitering the Net--Its like the ole Tubes song---
Oh they added the Value Meter--At first I looked up I thought they were selling value meals- TVG Meals on Wheels.

Indulto · 08-01-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by InsideThePylons-MW

It has nothing to do with product quality.

The new tracks they are now promoting have larcenous takeout rates which are bad for every horseplayer, even if you don't bet those tracks.

TVG claims to be horseplayer friendly, for the horseplayer and a network which is focused on bringing new people into the game.

How can they say that while promoting Woodbine with 27% tri takeouts and Penn National with 31% tri, 30% super, 28% P-4 takeouts?

Here is the previous thread on the subject when they started promoting Woodbne.

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=59003

Would it really surprise anybody here if TVG were suddenly to offer competitive rebates on these high-takeout tracks? How about if New York State suddenly prevented TVG from taking bets from NY residents in an attempt to "solve" the OTB problem?

Since you're bringing back your old thread, ITP, why don't you take a poll here and find out to what extent support exists here for your position regarding TVG?

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Originally Posted by andymays

HANA should take a stand here. A fight has to start somewhere.

AM,
Given your involvment, there's sure to be a fight at DMR first.

Shouldn't HANA have a clear position first on ADWs as a whole, and each ADW individually before it takes on any one of them? Shouldn't whatever positions are established meet with membership approval before any action is taken? Shouldn't HANA first establish its position regarding takeout as a whole before it takes positions regarding ADWs? Hopefully that's what Jeff P's current polls are about.

andymays · 08-01-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Indulto

Would it really surprise anybody here if TVG were suddenly to offer competitive rebates on these high-takeout tracks? How about if New York State suddenly prevented TVG from taking bets from NY residents in an attempt to "solve" the OTB problem?

Since you're bringing back your old thread, ITP, why don't you take a poll here and find out to what extent support exists here for your position regarding TVG?

AM,
Given your involvment, there's sure to be a fight at DMR first.

Shouldn't HANA have a clear position first on ADWs as a whole, and each ADW individually before it takes on any one of them? Shouldn't whatever positions are established meet with membership approval before any action is taken? Shouldn't HANA first establish its position regarding takeout as a whole before it takes positions regarding ADWs? Hopefully that's what Jeff P's current polls are about.

Yes! Yes! And Yes! I believe that's what Jeff is doing.

Relwob Owner · 08-01-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Barrister

They'll probably be covering Charlestown in the near future.

I can't wait until they add the Idaho and B.C. fair circuits. Can you picture Matt Caruthers, on-track, in Western garb?

Marquis Downs is another choice. They could quintuple the handle (about $20k a day) there, not that the adjacent casino would care.

They might as well add the greyhounds, too. It would take the hosts about a week to become experts on that. It would take me about fifteen minutes to teach them enough about greyhounds to fool most of their viewers into thinking the hosts knew what they were talking about.

Actually, HRTV just signed up to cover Charlestown thru the end of the year and will be on track for the WVA Classics. You sound like you are knocking CT but the quality of racing is pretty high. Both Commentator and Big Drama have run there this year, they have big fields and big purses. They still struggle to get races off on time, which cause some issues for HRTV as they cover them.