Umpiring: Baseball Playoffs

[Jeff P]

Missed calls prompt umpire switch for World Series
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[rrbauer]

Originally Posted by Jeff P

Missed calls prompt umpire switch for World Series
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_yl...v=ap&type=lgns


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Typical baseball knee-jerk. Everybody knows that the right thing to do is to use replay-reviews of plays that end up being cloaked in controversy based upon an ump's initial call. Does baseball and its umpires want integrity, or not? Where is the benefit to the game, the teams or the fans from embracing a system that produces bad calls.

[toetoe]

Originally Posted by RXB

As a kid, I remember watching the Patriots get robbed in the NFL playoffs against the Raiders when the ref threw an absolutely ridiculous roughing-the-passer flag against Sugar Bear Hamilton. 25 years later, the ref was still insisting he made the correct call. Some guys are like that.

I gotta say, that call tonight was really, really, really, really bad.

The Pates have seen their luck more than even out since then, especially versus da Raydahs.

[toetoe]

Originally Posted by rrbauer

Typical baseball knee-jerk. Everybody knows that the right thing to do is to use replay-reviews of plays that end up being cloaked in controversy based upon an ump's initial call. Does baseball and its umpires want integrity, or not? Where is the benefit to the game, the teams or the fans from embracing a system that produces bad calls.

Okay, fair enough; but where's the outrage against the gladiators themselves, when they fail or refuse to hit the cutoff, take a pitch, get down a bunt ? Manny "The Sieve" Ramirez and noodle arm Juan Pierre are tolerated; inconsistent umpires are vilified.

P.S. How about the baserunning gaffe that led to that bad call when the two Yankees runners should be out ? Back to the dugout, have a smoke, listen to the manager beg for a slightly better effort next time, high fives all around. Sheesh.

[rrbauer]

Originally Posted by toetoe

Okay, fair enough; but where's the outrage against the gladiators themselves, when they fail or refuse to hit the cutoff, take a pitch, get down a bunt ? Manny "The Sieve" Ramirez and noodle arm Juan Pierre are tolerated; inconsistent umpires are vilified.

P.S. How about the baserunning gaffe that led to that bad call when the two Yankees runners should be out ? Back to the dugout, have a smoke, listen to the manager beg for a slightly better effort next time, high fives all around. Sheesh.

Ya gotta start somewhere! Players that can't perform can be benched, fined, traded, released. If the umps get the calls wrong then what does the level of effort by anyone else matter? Start a thread on bonehead plays. I have a couple posts in mind!! We'll start with Mike Scosia's handling of the Angel's pitching staff in the ALCS!

[DanG]

Originally Posted by rrbauer

We'll start with Mike Scosia's handling of the Angel's pitching staff in the ALCS!

Well said and Girardi isn’t too far behind in the knee jerk parade as well imo.

[Imriledup]

Originally Posted by Marshall Bennett

Looked more like 8 inches , and yes it was disgraceful . Had this happened to the Yankees that umpire wouldn't have left the park alive . This may well have been the worse call I've ever seen in such a game . May have made a difference in the outcome of the series had the Twins gone home 1 - 1 . They fine ballplayers for stupidity , they should do the same for umpires if they don't already . Then he should be FIRED !!

The Twins lost game 3, at home, why would you think they were going to win game 3, it was still Pavano against Pettitte, its not like anything would have changed had it been 1-1. Yanks were clearly the superior team, Twins had bases loaded with 0 outs and couldnt' get it done. They werent' good enough. Mauer eventually singled. To think that Mauer being on 2nd instead of first might have made the Twins win the series is sheer folly. I'm not defending the call, but it didn't have any effect on that series.

Instead of Twins crying that they were robbed, they need to go out and get better players, that might put them over the top next season. They're not going to get it done with Pavano as one of their aces. Nick Punto hitting singles and faking like he's stealing home to 'rattle' the pitcher isn't winning any world serieses anytime soon imo.

[DanG]

Originally Posted by Imriledup

Instead of Twins crying that they were robbed, they need to go out and get better players, that might put them over the top next season.

I’m guessing that has occurred to them. Given that geography has caused apple & orange revenue streams what the Twins accomplish with a smart personal department is remarkable.