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Old 04-22-2011, 04:14 AM   #1
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2012: The Racing Form

He makes some good points


CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER

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Unified Field Theory of 2012, Axiom One: The more the Republicans can make the 2012 election like 2010, the better their chances of winning.

The 2010 Democratic shellacking had the distinction of being the most ideological election in 30 years. It was driven by one central argument in its several parts: the size and reach of government, spending and debt, and, most fundamentally, the nature of the American social contract. 2010 was a referendum on the Obama experiment in hyper-liberalism. It lost resoundingly

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Old 04-22-2011, 06:38 AM   #2
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You failed to mention Romney's religion. I am not sure that many fundamentalist Christians are ready to vote for a Mormon. Even Beck (Mormon himself) says it is a problem.

I am a democrat and the only republican I fear is Huckabee and I don't fear him much. But he does has that homespun personality that made Reagan so popular.
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Old 04-22-2011, 07:08 AM   #3
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His analysis looks just like his advocacy. He has made no secret that Pawlenty or Romney would be his choice. I think he's wrong about Palin, she looks more and more to be running, and if she does she could win the nomination. He's more a traditionalist and would not support tea party or outside the beltway types like Trump. He also makes no mention of Herman Cain who looks to be running, and he doesn't even mention Allen West amongst the up and comers. I don't think its about race but I just don't think CK has his finger on the pulse of the country.
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Old 04-22-2011, 10:48 AM   #4
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You failed to mention Romney's religion. I am not sure that many fundamentalist Christians are ready to vote for a Mormon. Even Beck (Mormon himself) says it is a problem.

I am a democrat and the only republican I fear is Huckabee and I don't fear him much. But he does has that homespun personality that made Reagan so popular.
What is wrong with a Morman?
We elected a muslim.
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I have become increasingly disinchanted and suspicious of Charles Krauthammer. He is a one time Mondale liberal and still holds some liberal views. His ties to the New Republic and Washington Post are other caution flags. To clinch it, he is a neocon and a member of the conspiratorial Council on Foreign Relations. His lack of support and savaging of Christine O'Donnell during the Delaware senate race angered many conservatives. Now he is scoffing at and insulting Trump, who is gathering populist support. Sorry, just do not like this guy, and am ignoring his so called graded overnight handicap.
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Old 04-22-2011, 06:16 PM   #6
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Like or dislike Krauthammer his analysis makes a lot of sense.

Bachmann
Trump
Palin

All have appeal to the more radical conservative factions but are not the choices of many republicans and would compromise any chances of a republican president in 2012. Defeating Obama will require a moderate candidate who keeps the birthers and tea-baggers at arms length focusing instead on the economy.
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Defeating Obama will require a moderate candidate who keeps the birthers and tea-baggers at arms length focusing instead on the economy.
Nasty, vile analysis. Thank you very little.

BO will defeat BO. Folk are on to his broken words, failed programs & inept administration.

His numbers are in the toilet. They'll be even lower come '12.
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Nasty, vile analysis. Thank you very little.

BO will defeat BO. Folk are on to his broken words, failed programs & inept administration.

His numbers are in the toilet. They'll be even lower come '12.

Que Sera, Sera as political strategy, ennui personified.
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redshift1, a moderate Republican is exactly what we DON'T need.
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redshift1, a moderate Republican is exactly what we DON'T need.

"What America needs" is another discussion altogether. IMO whoever wins the 2012 presidential election needs to carry the independent/undecided voters, any platform that embraces fringe ideology will be hard pressed to gain any traction with the aforementioned voters.

Its a tough call for a rep. candidate because a fair number of conservatives subscribe to the somewhat unorthodox views espoused by the more radical candidates. I'm seeing "white elephants" ahead for Republicans.

Abortion
Creationism
Birthers
T-baggers
Unions
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I'm seeing "white elephants" ahead for Republicans.

Abortion
Creationism
Birthers
T-baggers
Unions
you say those like people who believe in it are bad things..
abortion...i believe its wrong for people to murder unborn children..if you don't, that's fine with me..to each his own..
creationism..can't remember this ever being a campaign issue..we all have views..when is it wrong because my view is different from yours..
birthers..who really cares..his record is what he should be thrown out for..
t-baggers..if i had to belong to any organization i'd be closer to their beliefs..have you ever been to a tea party rally? great bunch of Americans for America..
unions...outlived its reason..needs to be reigned in..dinosaur
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"What America needs" is another discussion altogether. IMO whoever wins the 2012 presidential election needs to carry the independent/undecided voters, any platform that embraces fringe ideology will be hard pressed to gain any traction with the aforementioned voters.

Its a tough call for a rep. candidate because a fair number of conservatives subscribe to the somewhat unorthodox views espoused by the more radical candidates. I'm seeing "white elephants" ahead for Republicans.

Abortion
Creationism
Birthers
T-baggers
Unions
Abortion is pretty much a 50/50 issue in this country so don't see that
as hurting a Conservative Candidate.
Creationism/really, you think that's an issue? Don't think it will hardly
be brought up, if at all.
Birthers/most conservatives concede the fact that Obama was born here, so not an issue for most Conservatives.
T-Baggers/change that to Tea Party, you have just insulted a mighty large group of honest hard working Americans, buddy. They are a big influence, didja notice the 2010 elections? The Tea party is a help to Conservatives, not a hindrance.
Unions/people are catching on to Unions especially after their vileness in
Wis. Not a problem.
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